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    • GaieusG 離線
      Gaieus
      最後由 編輯

      I've been in touch with the developers of Twilight Render for a while and finally, it is out! It works inside SU (which will make it quite appealing for many users seeking simple solutions) still seems to be quite a powerful render engine with some really cool and unique features like the ability to export animations with SketchyPhysics and ProperAnimation

      See The Daily CatchUp article and Twilight Render website.
      (Ehm... If you look around, they are not advertising with us (yet?) so this is rather personal since we all know many of these developers "personally" from here and hope they will have a successful launch)

      Gai...

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      • FrederikF 離線
        Frederik
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        @gaieus said:

        (Ehm... If you look around, they are not advertising with us (yet?) so this is rather personal since we all know many of these developers "personally" from here and hope they will have a successful launch)

        I'm sure that once they start selling, they will advertise here... 😉

        Cheers
        Kim Frederik

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        • Chris FullmerC 離線
          Chris Fullmer
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          I'm just hoping that at some point I find the "register" button on their forums...

          Chris

          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
          All my Plugins I've written

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          • GaieusG 離線
            Gaieus
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            @frederik said:

            I'm sure that once they start selling, they will advertise here... 😉

            Hehe... Actually, Kim, I was referring to (and already kind of "defending myself from") some possible assumptions that the only reason I'm writing about it is because they are advertising...
            😉

            @chris fullmer said:

            I'm just hoping that at some point I find the "register" button on their forums...

            Hm. True...
            I even tried a "trick"; trying to log in hoping that when it gives me the "wrong password" warning, there will be a "Not a member yet? Try to register here" but no avail.

            Must be too new and fresh launch and they haven't activated registration yet.

            Gai...

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            • R 離線
              remus
              最後由 編輯

              Just trying out the demo as we speak, and quite impressed so far.

              Strikes me as a slightly simplified version of kerkythea which maintains a lot of the power.

              Cant go wrong for the price, either.

              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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              • GaieusG 離線
                Gaieus
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                Well, I've been checking the features out and although based on the latest Kerky engine and indeed it has a close relation to it (you can even export your model and Twilight settings to Kerkythea if you wish), since it works from inside SU, it can do some extra - like even export SketchyPhysics and Proper Animation animations.

                With a relatively low price (it's now the introductory price though) it may be a teaser for SP fanatics 😉

                Gai...

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                • GaieusG 離線
                  Gaieus
                  最後由 編輯

                  Ha... Getting to figure out the settings and all. A quick render (with the flattest possible materials in the model) of a Roman fortress on the Danubian frontier in the 4th century (model by "kephalos"


                  16 passes with exterior progressive ~ 5 minutes using 1 thread

                  Gai...

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                  • FrederikF 離線
                    Frederik
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                    Nice render, Gaieus... 😄
                    Happy to see how quickly you've adapted Twilight... 👍

                    It made me think about the Isolated cabin thread, which Shreeyam Kacker (aka =Mr Planet= ) posted some time ago...

                    Shreeyam also posted the model at the 3D Warehouse, which gave me the opportunity to download it and take it through Twilight...

                    In the below render, I didn't touch a thing...
                    All I did after having downloaded the model from the 3D warehouse was to open it and render it using Twilight... 😉

                    This shows exactly how easy Twilight is... 😄


                    Isolated-cabin-TW.jpg

                    Cheers
                    Kim Frederik

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                    • F 離線
                      Fletch
                      最後由 編輯

                      @gaieus said:

                      I've been in touch with the developers of Twilight Render for a while and finally, it is out! ...

                      Hi Gaieus, thank you for your kind post. You (everyone) should be able to register at the website now. Please let me know if it's not working for some reason.

                      Here is the Announcement and Features PDF.

                      **It is our great pleasure to announce the release of the Twilight Render Plugin for Google SketchUp. With Twilight, realistic renderings are easy to create right inside SketchUp without spending days and weeks learning complicated software.

                      Twilight gives you the flexibility of working on your model while you render in any of several biased and unbiased methods. It allows you to use an unlimited number of processors for maximum speed. Twilight integrates directly into Sketchup with views, layers, materials, lighting tools and more.

                      Twilight supports physically accurate materials like fuzzy reflection and subsurface scattering, specialized render methods like Alpha Mask, and a wide range of fine tuned render presets. Twilight also supports animation with almost no setup time, including third-party plugins like Proper Animation and SketchyPhysics!

                      Come join us at http://www.TwilightRender.com to see all Twilight has to offer. Download a free evaluation copy to try it for yourself. We know you'll be amazed!**

                      Fletch
                      Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                      • GaieusG 離線
                        Gaieus
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                        Haha, Fletch. It seems that I beat you in announcing Twilight!
                        😄

                        Anyway, thanks for the registration fix - I'll go and have a look.

                        Kim; actually I've been using Kerky (on and off) for quite a while now and can easily adapt to Twilight now (or so it seems). Maybe it wasn't very apparent (from the lack of my contribution and boasting with fine renders) but I did "studied" Kerky a lot and there have been times when there weren't unread posts in the forums by me 😉

                        Anyway, I accidentally left the image cooking for 89 passes but cannot see significant difference (surely with a more complex scene there would be) so it seems that even with a relatively "demanding" preset one can achieve nice results:


                        Erőd2.jpg

                        Gai...

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                        • F 離線
                          Fletch
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                          Here are a couple renderings done with Twilight:
                          from this thread

                          http://www.shane-fletcher.com/Gallery/Share/Auditorium_web_20081028.jpg

                          from this thread

                          http://www.kerkythea.net/phpBB2/files/hyperbaric_context_web_361.jpg

                          Fletch
                          Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                          • L 離線
                            lexqui
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                            Ok, ok. It seems to be a very nice render, but I have some answers before trying it. As a VRay user, I just wanna know if it's worthy spending some (precious) time to study that new render.

                            • Is it fast, or at least, faster than VRay?
                            • Does it support Displacement maps? I'm not shure, but I think that Kerkythea doesn't.
                            • Does it have some kind of Physical Camera? Any render control close to photography methods, like in VRay and Maxwell?
                            • Does it have any procedural maps, like noise, to create more realistic materials?

                            Well, I'm really interested in an alternative to VRay, faster and just as good as the ASGVis stuff, but I'm not encouraged to change the way of thinking in rendering technics, unless it's really nice and worthy doing. Is it?

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                            • K 離線
                              kwistenbiebel
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                              What is the difference with Thea Render and Kerkythea in terms of quality and speed?

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                              • FrederikF 離線
                                Frederik
                                最後由 編輯

                                @kwistenbiebel said:

                                What is the difference with Thea Render and Kerkythea in terms of quality and speed?

                                Not sure why you bring this question up here... 😕
                                This is an announcement about a new render application - Twilight render - which is as powerful as Kerkythea, but much easier since it works directly inside SU... 😉

                                However, to answer your question, you can't compare Thea and Kerkythea...
                                Although the man behind the code is the same, Thea is build from scratch and has far more power than KT...
                                Take a look at the Thea website and see some of the technical preview renders... 😉

                                Cheers
                                Kim Frederik

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                                • daleD 離線
                                  dale
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                                  Sadly, appears to be windows only?

                                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                  • K 離線
                                    kwistenbiebel
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    Hi Frederick,
                                    I am genuinely interested to know about Twilight.
                                    It is not because this is a product announcement, we can't ask questions about it...or is it?

                                    I just want to know if Twilight is fully KT driven or if it runs and altered version.

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                                    • E 離線
                                      Eulgrand
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Given Twilight is using the same render engine as KT, I think the result in terms of speed should be quite close, except that you can't close SU while rendering, which reduces available resource.
                                      Below is a quickie, rendered with Path Tracing - Progressive / 60 passes / 30 minutes.
                                      The big time saving will be in the workflow.


                                      quickieTwilight.jpg

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                                      • N 離線
                                        notareal
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @kwistenbiebel said:

                                        What is the difference with Thea Render and Kerkythea in terms of quality and speed?

                                        This is a bit off topic. There is no such comparison available yet as Thea Render code is not optimised, but you should expect improvements in both fields. I would expect speed comparisons when public beta is launched. About quality, there are some renders at thearender.com so you might judge your self. Although those are mainly technical renders... but you should get a impression.

                                        But if you did mean Twilight ws KT, those should be quite similar... but it's much up to engine version and used settings. Twilight is just much much more streamlined.

                                        but more important...
                                        Congratulations of the release!

                                        Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                        • K 離線
                                          kwistenbiebel
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          @notareal said:

                                          ...But if you did mean Twilight ws KT, those should be quite similar... but it's much up to engine version and used settings. Twilight is just much much more streamlined.
                                          re important...

                                          Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks for explaining.
                                          I'll be sure to try it out.

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                                          • A 離線
                                            avariant
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @chris fullmer said:

                                            I'm just hoping that at some point I find the "register" button on their forums...

                                            Registration is done on the front page of the website, http://www.TwilightRender.com. There should be a 'Create Account' link on the lower left side. The forum is tied into the website, so one registration works for both.

                                            @dale said:

                                            Sadly, appears to be windows only?

                                            For now it's windows only, but we do hope to put out a Mac version as soon as possible.

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