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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      exist ouliner.rb
      Seems works with all version

      Frenchy Pilou
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      • JClementsJ Offline
        JClements
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        Chris, thanks for replying.

        My initial feeling is method #1. And if the user triple-clicked the hidden edges would be get select anyway and they could then run the script, correct?

        I hadn't really considered method #2, if its a no-brainer to script then I suppose we could pick and choose between the two by installing both or either one.

        John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
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          No ruby's needed.

          http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/586/shapeselect.gif

          http://www.solos-art.com

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
            last edited by

            Yes, but that only works so smoothly when you can smooth your entire object like you did. Imagine an object where you have certain things smoothed for a reason, and other edges left hard. Then that way doesn't quite work. (though quite frankly that rarely/never happens in my workflow, and I also preyy much don't ever need to select all the outer edges, so the ruby script is not one I find useful). But it only took about 5 minutes to write, and much of that was copying and adjusting the menu system and the legal mumbo jumbo.

            Anyhow, I'll post a working version in a minute John.

            Chris

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            • B Offline
              BTM
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              Pete's way can work with specifically unsoftened areas too; just do it inside the group, and when the edges are selected, hit undo 😄

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by

                +1 for BTM

                but I still posted the little ruby here:

                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20274

                Chris

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                • JClementsJ Offline
                  JClements
                  last edited by

                  Thanks, Chris!

                  When the script is needed (although it may not be often) it will be greatly appreciated ... usually after doing deformations + plus mulitiple intersections, odd shapes, etc., which seems like its always at the end of the day, near a deadline, and you don't time and are impatient 😄 )

                  It worked pretty well on this one (which is a result of a projection) but not quite. Anyway it will work I think for a majority of cases 👍 . Thanks again for sharing.

                  John

                  P.S. At least keep it alive in your archives.


                  Perimeter (outer) Edges only 2.skp

                  John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    Wow John, how can you work like that? Where's your axis? That model was very weird to try and orient with the axis off and no prior knowledge of what should be up or down.

                    anyhow, I turned on the axis and I was able to figure it out 😄

                    As for the script not working right, that is actually because the model is a little off. Its not perfectly flat.

                    EDIT: Not that a model has to be flat for my plugin to work. But in this case, there are overlaps that apear to be flat, which are not flat. So the plugin selects edges that don't look like outer edges, but in fact are since they are not flat with the faces that are overlapping them.

                    Chris

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      Seems that is a 2D view of a 3D work 😉

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • JClementsJ Offline
                        JClements
                        last edited by

                        Chris, I only turned of the axis so they wouldn't show when I exported a jpg 😄

                        John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                        • mitcorbM Offline
                          mitcorb
                          last edited by

                          this starts to suggest selection of loops, maybe creation of loops, maybe loop subdivide on volumetric models, not just planar objects.
                          never mind-- just a tangential rambling

                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
                            last edited by

                            @mitcorb said:

                            this starts to suggest selection of loops, maybe creation of loops, maybe loop subdivide on volumetric models, not just planar objects.
                            never mind-- just a tangential rambling

                            Doesn't Thom have some selection toys that work with loops? Thom, I've looked at your script, but I've forgotten which it is and what exactly it does. Want to step in and enlighten us?

                            Chris

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
                              last edited by

                              Well, here's his selection tools plugin:

                              http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=14975&p=114380&hilit=%5BPlugin%5D#p114380

                              It does have select loop. Its not something I've gotten the hang of in other modelers, so I'd have a hard time implementing it. But check out Thom's, looks like it should work for loops!

                              Chris

                              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                              • mitcorbM Offline
                                mitcorb
                                last edited by

                                I don't think he has loop selection of edges--only faces at this time. I might be wrong. He may have updated it. What I am suggesting is already a native tool in Blender and a few other solid modelers.
                                Selecting a loop of edges could become problematic unless you had options to select at the bifurcations of a heavy triangulated model. Of course, Zorro would make short work of it unless that would be too heavy handed--in some cases a dispassionate slasher.
                                mitcorb

                                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Edge Loop, could anyone post a screenshot of what that means? A "Loop" can be interpreted as many things.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                  • R Offline
                                    remus
                                    last edited by

                                    Here you go.


                                    edge loop.JPG

                                    http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      The thing about these kind of selections, how do you expect them to work on irregular shaped objects? How do they work in other applications?

                                      If it assumes that the shape is made out of triangles or quads things are very easy.

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        See TopMod 😉 (free)
                                        Have cool loops selection 😉
                                        And it's a crazzy prog 😎 (here old version)
                                        topmod.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • mitcorbM Offline
                                          mitcorb
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, Remus and Pilou:
                                          That is what would be called edge loop selection.
                                          Now, what if the volume were made up of only triangle faces? or a combination of both quads and triangles(either hard or soft edges)
                                          You would want to select the shortest edge loop around the volume, or the longest loop around the volume, or some specific path. You could then duplicate the path in order to subdivide, or do a follow me with an added figure, or an array copy--or whatever.

                                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                          • N Offline
                                            notareal
                                            last edited by

                                            Here is a good explanation of edge loop.
                                            http://wiki.cgsociety.org/index.php/Edge_Loop
                                            Edge loop terminates if there 3 or 5 (or more junctions), so for a mesh build with only triangle faces there is no edge loop.

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