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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      Grow makes the trick but you must add another plug for align drop objects! Align by Didier Bur
      After the Scale
      x = 0.8
      y = 0.8
      z = 0.8
      because the Z Spacing don't accept a coefficient but just a value in cm ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

      Maybe Tig can make something ๐Ÿ˜‰
      Another plug must be created "Drop" on an existing object
      Seems Didier Bur has a drop inside Spray tool but... ๐Ÿ˜’

      ๐Ÿ˜ฎalign.jpg

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Try changing the order of operations - scale then move then rotate, move then scale then rotate etc... This will produce differing results

        TIG

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          How change order as all is in the same dialog box???
          Sorry but seems impossible or I miss something for the Duh thread ๐Ÿ˜ณ

          Seems that the Zspacing accepting a % will be very cool?

          I have the 1.0 20070207

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            There is a separate dialog at the end asking for 'order of operations'...

            The latest version of 'Grow' is now available for download here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=324331#p324331

            TIG

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Indeed that is a big Duhduh ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ณ
              I had a very old version! ๐Ÿ˜†
              So I must learn your new opus โ˜€

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                Ok that works like a charm ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                except that we must find first the "Growth point"!!!
                the "bottom point base" of the troncated crossing edges top Pyramid! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                Maybe this can be automatic because in this case its' easy to find it but in case of complex form?
                Or biggest volume?

                Mr TIG it's your turn ๐Ÿ˜„


                inthe fog.jpg


                grow.skp

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • utilerU Offline
                  utiler
                  last edited by

                  Gee, I'm glad i stumbled on this; I like Pilou had an old version....TIG, is this only relatively new? I just went to http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/em_edi_page.htm and the old one still downloads.....

                  TIG, Have you produced a instructions sheet with this latest version? I am having trouble executing what i want to do. I seem to be confused as the the 'X' and 'Y' planes....
                  I assume 'X' is red direction; left and right,
                  'Y' is green direction; up and down the screen,
                  and
                  'Z' is obvious.

                  When I rotate a vertical ['Z' plane] object around what i think is the RED direction it actually rotates it around the GREEN...['Y']

                  Also, TIG, can you give a little detailed explanation of the order of parameters...?
                  I have been getting an awful lot of Bugspats!!!!

                  Don't get me wrong, I think once I get the concept of it I will have found my new favourite plugin!!!

                  purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    @Utiler
                    Z Is not obvious, with it your model goes in the 3D space up & down! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                    there is a little help text inside the code plug! Open it ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    @unknownuser said:

                    When I rotate a vertical ['Z' plane] object around what i think is the RED direction it actually rotates it around the GREEN...['Y']

                    It's around the BLUE AXIS ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Order gives you the natural order of transformations ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    About the first problem seems you can't oblige to have 80% for have perfect fit if you don't know the other X,Y,Z measures!
                    it's depending of the measure of the first start volume!
                    See my example above! I have 50% for this one (of course with my start measures volume)

                    My regulates and don't forget the Growth point position (see image above)
                    nb copy 3
                    X spacing = 0
                    Y spacing = 0
                    Z spacing = 100 cm
                    Scaling = Yes

                    Xspacing scaling = 1
                    Yspacing scaling = 1
                    Zspacing scaling = 0.5

                    Xcopy scaling = 0.5
                    Ycopy scaling = 0.5
                    Zcopy scaling = 0.5

                    (all exponential+ by default)

                    Move Scale Rotate order (or Move Rotate Scale as the is no rotation in this one)

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • utilerU Offline
                      utiler
                      last edited by

                      Thanks Pilou,
                      I believe Z is always vertical [blue axis in SU]. If the ground plane is the ground then it makes sence to me that Z [blue axis is vertical....

                      See the simple Palm tree attached.
                      GrowTest01.png
                      Say I want to rotate copy and move the palm fron as noted on the attached image. Still getting weird outcomes when I try to do so...

                      thanks in advance.


                      GrowTest.skp

                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Something like this?


                        regul.jpg


                        palm.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • utilerU Offline
                          utiler
                          last edited by

                          No, Pilou. As a Palm fron grows [pardon the pun], it faces the sky with it's flat side facing up. Sometimes, slightly rotated but for the purpose of the exersice, lets keep it simple....
                          This is what i mean.
                          GrowTest02.png
                          Then copy and rotate various frons to thicken up the folage...GrowTest03.png
                          Then do a little 'Fredo' bending....
                          GrowTest04.png

                          So thats what i want to do with grow, however I just did this example manually...
                          Skippy attached FYI...
                          Thanks for your help with this idea, Pilou, much appreciated!! ๐Ÿ‘


                          GrowTest01.skp

                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Ok I see ๐Ÿ˜„
                            Maybe monday a result ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • utilerU Offline
                              utiler
                              last edited by

                              Thanks Pilou, look forward to your reply..
                              ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                              • utilerU Offline
                                utiler
                                last edited by

                                Pilou, My Grow dialouge Box looks a little different.... older or newer?


                                GrowDialogueBox.png

                                purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                • utilerU Offline
                                  utiler
                                  last edited by

                                  Still not working.... ๐Ÿ˜ก
                                  Not getting the same result as you even though I am imputting the same data...

                                  Ready to un-install.


                                  GrowTest05-GrowDialogue.png


                                  GrowTest05.png


                                  GrowTest05-plan.png


                                  GrowTest.skp

                                  purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    You have an older version! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                    The last version were in this same thread always by TIG ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Maybe this ๐Ÿ˜„
                                      But in fact all gives cool results just try different little variations
                                      Palm's pull up is given by negative value ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                      Here with these regulates (click image)

                                      palm1.jpgPalm2.jpg

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • utilerU Offline
                                        utiler
                                        last edited by

                                        Damn!
                                        I hate it when i feel amateurish... ๐Ÿ˜ณ
                                        Thanks Pilou, I think I am on the right track now. I will post some updates later.

                                        Thank you kindly for your persistence.
                                        ๐Ÿ˜

                                        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                        • utilerU Offline
                                          utiler
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok, I have loaded the new 2.1 version...

                                          Did a little axis directions text [see attached.] It eems that the X axis directions are back to front. I would have thought that the postive directions would have been forward and the negative direction would be backwards....
                                          Grow_-_AxisDirections1.png
                                          Also, rotations around the Z axis are anti-clockwise. I thought it makes sense to have postive rotations clockwise and negative rotations anticlockwise.... [see also attached]

                                          TIG, is there any reason for this?

                                          Eitherway, I think i have it worked out. ๐Ÿ‘


                                          Grow_-_AxisDirections2.png

                                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                          • H Offline
                                            hsjzyangbin
                                            last edited by

                                            HI,TIG,i wish the picture just like show


                                            2009-12-18_1712.png


                                            2009-12-18_1714.png

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