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    • Alan FraserA 離線
      Alan Fraser
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      @unknownuser said:

      Cornel, just out of curiosity, how old is your estimation of our universe?

      Groan! That should be good for another 4 pages. 😉

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      • soloS 離線
        solo
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        💚 humour me.

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        • StinkieS 離線
          Stinkie
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          @solo said:

          @unknownuser said:

          Naïve people can be hypnotized

          The same thing can be said about religion.

          My thoughts exactly. Believing in alien abduction or in the Rapture ... Pretty much the same thing from where I'm standing.

          Also, I see some parallels between paranoid schizophrenia and believing in God. He can see me. Everywhere. All the time. 😲

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          • C 離線
            cornel
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            Pete wrote:
            “The same thing can be said about religion.”

            I have to be a foolish person if I 'use' a religion which cannot be verified, which doesn’t change my life, a religion without hope, without salvation...,etc.
            Except one, all religions are dead.
            There is only one Living God, who is over all and through all and in all.

            There is no ‘place’ for extra 'veritable' gods!

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            • T 離線
              tomasz
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              @unknownuser said:

              David Icke:

              Wait a minute! There is something wrong. My estimations are rather in the range of 4-5%. 👊
              Just kidding. 😄

              @unknownuser said:

              Red Elk and Gregg Braden

              I say that what Gregg has seen can be possible in 100% if one believes. I don't have such a faith.
              Regarding Red Elk, I think all these dexterities are possible. I understand the going into past/future as a spiritual trip not in a body. I haven't heard of becoming invisible in other cultures, but probably can be achieved.

              @unknownuser said:

              Good stuff, Tomasz, thanks!

              Cornel, have you not learned that Stinkie loves irony.

              @unknownuser said:

              Naïve people can be hypnotized (intoxicated) by that mixture of subtile commercials, New Age truncated ideas, mysticism, pseudo-scientism, etc. presented by those half-illuminists

              Stinkie has presented just some spicy extracts from their thinking. My point is that they are going in one direction. They are saying that at the spiritual level we are all equal, we are all One, brothers and sisters. One was advertising copywriter, one is Native American, one is a scientist and one a television presenter. They all, as you say can be toxic, but everything will become more clear with the time.

              You won't bring anyone closer to Our Father if you will stuff people with quotations they are not ready to take to a heart. It looks like you know a recipe, but have never had a baked cake.

              Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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              • soloS 離線
                solo
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                @unknownuser said:

                Except one, all religions are dead.

                Let me guess, the one that initiated the crusades, implemented the inquisition?

                @unknownuser said:

                I have to be a foolish person if I 'use' a religion which cannot be verified

                verified?, you are kidding right?

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • StinkieS 離線
                  Stinkie
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  I haven't heard of becoming invisible in other cultures, but probably can be achieved.

                  Probably comes in handy when dodging them pesky Reptilians! 😎

                  I have a suspicion Cornel does not 'do' irony. 😄 High-five, Cornel! C'mon!

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                  • C 離線
                    cornel
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                    Pete, be perplex or not,
                    I'm not "kidding"!

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                    • StinkieS 離線
                      Stinkie
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                      Hmmmmm ... So christianity can be 'verified'. I guess this means God's existence can be proven. By all means ... go ahead. Obviously, Bible quotations won't quite suffice.

                      Also, if I may, a thought ... Doens't the intrinsic value of 'believing' lie in the amount of suspension of disbelief you're willing to invest? If chistianity can be 'verified', if God's existence can indeed be proven, where does that leave the suspension of disbelief? You wouldn't need any. You'd just be siding with the team that cannot lose. Wouldn't that equal opportunism?

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                      • C 離線
                        cornel
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                        Pete wrote:
                        "Cornel, just out of curiosity, how old is your estimation of our universe?"

                        Pete, for such subject, re. Ages and Dispensations, you have to open a new topic!

                        We are now into a ‘parenthesis’ of the Eternity, name ‘The Time’, which started from point “Alpha” (so called ‘Creative Ages’) and will finish to point “Omega” (so called ‘Ages of the Ages’) .
                        As main ‘parts’, the Time, inbetween Eternities, covers 3 distinctive periods: Antedeluvian Age, the Present Age and Age of Ages.

                        Now, each category has precise subdivisions, and so on…
                        We need Time and Space (a topic) for estimation of our Universe!

                        Cornel

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                        • StinkieS 離線
                          Stinkie
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                          Dang, when I saw you posted an answer, I'd thought you'd come up with 'verification'! 💚

                          @unknownuser said:

                          We need Time and Space (a topic) for estimation of our Universe!

                          No, we don't. It's a simple enough question, it doesn't need a thread of its own.

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                          • T 離線
                            tomsdesk
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            Tom, you pretend that you are an exception..."There is no one righteous, not even one" (Romans 3:10)

                            I have no pretense of being an exception and made no claim of righteousness: I am merely one human being among many, as I am for better or worse...and I find such catagorizations devisive, such attitudes offensive, such statements insulting.

                            @unknownuser said:

                            "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23)

                            I am not a racist because I am white, I am not a bigot because I am male, nor am I a sinner because I am born. If you wish to separate yourself from the universe in this manner, you are free to do so...I choose not.

                            @unknownuser said:

                            God's standard is different than ours..., but, through Jesus (only), we can fulfili its 'requirements'!

                            So you believe, I guess, I don't. I will "make peace with maker" in my own way...and it is not for you to judge me nor speak of my judgement.

                            http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
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                            • StinkieS 離線
                              Stinkie
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                              Amigo, stop dodging the question - please.

                              Cornell, another simple question. Is there, in your mind, any doubt, any at all, that there indeed is a God?

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                              • C 離線
                                cornel
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                                Stinke, what is your "simple" response to that "simple enough question" ?!
                                According to your estimation, what's the age of our Universe?

                                My "we need Time and Space (a topic)" means that we have to explain a 'trumpeted' number...!

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                                • C 離線
                                  cornel
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                                  I have no doubt, "amigo"!

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                                  • StinkieS 離線
                                    Stinkie
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                                    Right.

                                    I am willing to argue that the value of a belief, of any belief, lies in its, err, holder's doubt and pain. Regurgitating dogmata and verses, being certain - that's easy. Oh well. Guess that not everyone can soar to Kierkegaardian heights, eh?

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                                    • C 離線
                                      cornel
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                                      Guys,
                                      In the name of christianity, there were/are a lot of denominations, clubs, mafia organizations (including inquisition), crusades, different diversionist groups, industry etc.
                                      They were/are auto-intituled as “christians”, to produce confusion and disorder among ignorant people.

                                      To be christian, means to live like Jesus Christ…
                                      -What was wrong in Jesus life?
                                      -Nothing.

                                      Apostle Paul wrote:
                                      “… it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.” (Galatians 2:20)

                                      Open your eyes, my friends!

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                                      • soloS 離線
                                        solo
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Open your eyes, my friends!

                                        LMAO, I wish you would.

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

                                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        • ely862meE 離線
                                          ely862me
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                                          😆 C*mon...it s time to stop this...the Word is spread ...if nobody it s interested let it go..that doesn t mean the nonbeliever are right,not at all..But somehow we get distanced each other and for the moment this is not good.
                                          Live in peace..as it s written Romans 12:18 If possible, so far as it depends upon you, live peaceably with all.

                                          So lets hear from all of you Amen to that!!

                                          Peace!

                                          Elisei

                                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                          Come and See EliseiDesign

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                                          • Alan FraserA 離線
                                            Alan Fraser
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                                            "A religion contradicting science and a science contradicting religion are equally false."
                                            Pyotr D. Ouspensky

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