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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      aha!, it was set on 1.

      I will change it and try again, thanks. (I wish I understood what all these settings actually mean)

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @solo said:

        (I wish I understood what all these settings actually mean)

        Ditto. But I only know what a few of them do. Damien tends to answer this stuff pretty good if you ask specific questions.

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          solo
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          Whats the largest render size in vray?

          I seem to have 2046x1536 at 96 DPI is this the biggest?

          I normally need to render 9,5x11" at 300 dpi for publication which is 3300 x 2850cm at 300DPI, is this even possible with Vray?

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @solo said:

            Whats the largest render size in vray?

            I seem to have 2046x1536 at 96 DPI is this the biggest?

            I normally need to render 9,5x11" at 300 dpi for publication which is 3300 x 2850cm at 300DPI, is this even possible with Vray?

            Yes. No problem. The buttons are just presets. Type in any size you want.
            You can do some really large renders, but at some point you will have to render to file (.vrimg) in order to prevent running out of memory.

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              If you ever need to render really really large.
              http://asgvis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=57

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                My 'Doh!" moment of the day, of course you can, what was I thinking?

                Another one, how can I get a texture more crisp, I have a very low value bump 0.5 and low reflections set but the texture still seems ever so slightly blurry (customer did not pick it up but I did)?

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                • soloS Offline
                  solo
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                  Where can I get a VrimgtoExr converter?

                  http://www.solos-art.com

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @solo said:

                    Where can I get a VrimgtoExr converter?

                    http://asgvis.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=0&func=fileinfo&id=277

                    Main Download page: http://asgvis.com/index.php?option=com_remository

                    ASGVis' website is a pain to navigate after did had a redesign some months ago. They realise this and have a new version in progress.

                    http://www.vray.com/vray_for_sketchup/ vray.com is also a good resource.
                    http://www.vray.com/free_vray_tools/

                    @solo said:

                    Another one, how can I get a texture more crisp, I have a very low value bump 0.5 and low reflections set but the texture still seems ever so slightly blurry (customer did not pick it up but I did)?

                    Hard to tell without seeing. But I assume you used a highres texture?
                    You could try the image samplers: http://www.spot3d.com/vray/help/150R1/examples_image_sampler.htm#ex5

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                    • soloS Offline
                      solo
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                      Thanks for those links mate.

                      Yeah the website is a mess to navigate.

                      I overcame the texture issue, I got a clue from Nomeradona on the Podium site about increasing the texture reflection subdivisions and it worked like a charm.

                      Now I ask yet another one... I need to show reflection on glass and some brushed aluminium, but I do not want to use a background image or hdri atmosphere, I was hoping that I could force reflections only on the reflective surfaces. In Vue one can force a reflection map globally for all reflective surfaces without effecting the lighting, is this possible with Vray?

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        Yes. You can do that on a global level if you go to the Reflection map in the enviroment. Or on a per material level by setting the Reflection map in the Maps section of the material.

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                          dalomar
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                          I just happened to be sticking my head in over here, so I figured I'd answer the Adaptive Amount 0.85 question. There are two main techniques that V-Ray uses to speed up a rendering; Early Termination and Importance sampling. I won't discuss the first one (that's another post), but the second one is basically the idea that values that have more potential to affect the scene should be sampled more accurately. In layman's terms, brighter areas get sampled more than darker areas do. The Adaptive Amount setting controls how much of a fall off happens between sampling the brighter areas and darker areas. We want some sort of fall off as that will make the rendering quicker, but with too much of a fall off darker areas my be undersampled leading to splotchiness and other issues.

                          The "goldilocks" number for this setting is 0.85. Any higher (>.85) and the sampling can be compromised. Any lower (<.85) and the rendering will likely be slower without much visual difference. Note that this is more of an issue when working with Irradiance Mapping for primary bounces. If you happen to be using DMC, they you can increase this a little higher than .85 (but still not to 1) without as much of a chance for artifacts.

                          Damien Alomar
                          Product Manager | V-Ray for SketchUp/Rhino
                          [ASGvis](http://www.asgvis.com)

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                          • soloS Offline
                            solo
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                            Damien, thank you for taking the time out to explain some of the technicalities of Vray and welcome to SCF.
                            It's always a good thing when developers are able to consult and advise on open forum, I know you are very active at ASGvis and glad you have also 'broken the seal' here too.

                            My next question is regarding displacement (I'm sure that this is a well covered subject on the vray site, but for those who are new or in a deciding capacity as far as render engines goes I will ask my questions here)

                            I have been trying to master displacement on simple objects before using it on any real projects, I have noticed that it totally kills render times which is expected and in line with most other render apps. I have found a few strange behaviors however, below is a simple SU model with a grass displacement on it, it rendered perfectly the first time but when iI decided to add the white band the render was flat without any displacement, I then made the band a group and rendered and it worked again giving me the result below. My question is... does the grouping of two material adjacent to another where one is displaced and the other not have any significance?


                            http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/474/vraydisplacementsetup.jpg

                            [flash=560,340:2rgr8gua]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/fBDTBV8qNWg[/flash:2rgr8gua]


                            http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9630/grassdisplace8.jpg

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                              AcesHigh
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                              this grass worm is really alien!

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                                dalomar
                                last edited by

                                Grouping does play an important role in VfSU knowing which faces to displace. The reason for this is that in order to keep the displaced mesh all continuous, V-Ray needs to know where those edges are and adjust the normal when approaching an edge between two displaced faces. Since the object was grouped correctly before you put the white band in there, adding it most likely muffed up the grouping in some way. One you regroup, then everything gets sorted out and it works.

                                The option that I was describing above is referred to as Keep Continuity. I don't recommend turning it off, but here's a small example of what it does...from Spot3d.com

                                http://www.spot3d.com/vray/help/150R1/examples_displacement.htm#example5

                                Damien Alomar
                                Product Manager | V-Ray for SketchUp/Rhino
                                [ASGvis](http://www.asgvis.com)

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                                  gaganraj
                                  last edited by

                                  damien,

                                  any word on vfsu for mac?

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    Solo. Would you mind sharing your grassy worm?

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                                    • soloS Offline
                                      solo
                                      last edited by

                                      Sure thing, it's bit heavy as it has a large texture and a SDS form.

                                      I included the displacement map incase Vray does not automatically map to it.


                                      vray displacement.skp


                                      grass_1_displace.jpg

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks. I haven't tried to displace grass yet. But I liked your sample.
                                        Was curious to how the displacement looked like. That's a PS noise generating filter, right?

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                        • soloS Offline
                                          solo
                                          last edited by

                                          That's a map I got online with the grass when I was looking for a displacement example in order to learn.
                                          I have been playing around using PSP making my own noise maps and concluded that the finer the noise the thinner the blades and visa verse.
                                          I also tried squares and dots and they create some really cool effects, especially using a variety of grey shades one can get varying hieghts.

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                                            solo
                                            last edited by

                                            Using the above displacement map I mapped another texture onto a low poly sphere and it turned out pretty good, I did use 'soft focus' in PSP, I believe it's called 'Bloom' in PS.

                                            http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8875/furballsu.jpg

                                            http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4871/furball.jpg

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