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      phy
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      can we upload now or or not this is cool

      Tableau de comparaison de Staxyn s'agit d'un mГ©dicament uniquement sur ordonnance.

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        phy
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        I'm sorry if I'm bugging you but in spiv are you going to have a concave hull or at least a staticmesh that is movable when you
        group it twice in stead of bugsplating. that would be very helpful

        Tableau de comparaison de Staxyn s'agit d'un mГ©dicament uniquement sur ordonnance.

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          Wacov
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          Sorry Phy but using the newton engine it's flat out impossible to have concave hulls. The staticmesh only works because it's... well, static. We're gonna have to live with using complex groups for complex shapes.

          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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            CPhillips
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            Yeah, convex is a limitation of the physics engine. Nothing I can do about it.

            Next version should be in a few days and you can release models made with that one on 3dwarehouse.

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              phy
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              Well to bad. Anyway sketchyphysics is real good the way it it.

              Tableau de comparaison de Staxyn s'agit d'un mГ©dicament uniquement sur ordonnance.

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                xrok1
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                did anyone notice that shift double click things stay even after sim is reset. is this normal? i don't think it was this way in SP2 was it?

                “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                  CPhillips
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                  Yeah, SP3 behaves a bit differently from SP2. After you ran a simulation in SP2 it would "undo" SP3 doesnt do that. It leaves the simulation on the undo stack but doesnt undo it automatically.

                  That means anything created stays. I'll have to fix that in a future release.

                  One reason I changed it was so you could edit controllers while the simulation is running.

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                    Platypus5
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                    can we upload on this version?

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                      Platypus5
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                      I found a glitch

                      You can no longer type formulas into the controller for a motor

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                        CPhillips
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                        @platypus5 said:

                        I found a glitch

                        You can no longer type formulas into the controller for a motor

                        Can anyone confirm this? It seems to work fine for me.

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                          Platypus5
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                          @cphillips said:

                          @platypus5 said:

                          I found a glitch

                          You can no longer type formulas into the controller for a motor

                          Can anyone confirm this? It seems to work fine for me.

                          mabye I wasn't doing it right. Oh well.

                          Another question: In sketchyphysics2, we could increase the mass of an object by grouping it with a bigger version of itself, setting the bigger copy to "ignore" and then hiding it. Now, SP3 sometimes fails to register this hidden mass. I noticed this when I tried to steer a tank using a flywheel; while the bullets (which have this "hidden mass" technique in them) are the same, the cylander in the flywheel group (motor and the cylander) which is set to ignore, spins but doesn't turn the vehicle. What is this inconsistancy? and finally, did what i said make any sense?

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                            CPhillips
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                            I think I understand but I don't know why. As far as I know that stuff should work the same. Post the model and I will take a look.

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                              MALAISE
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                              Hi Cphillips
                              Does still exist a manual even short ?
                              I try to make copies from simple models ( 2 box linked with a motor-joint ) but it seems not to be available. Is there a trick ?

                              Thanks a lot

                              MALAISE

                              La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                Wacov
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                                MALAISE, until SPIV is out copying anything with joints in, or that is connected to a joint, is a bad idea. The simulation will go crazy, and there is no workaround.

                                http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                                  MALAISE
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                                  Hi Cphillips
                                  Thanks for that early answer. I'm really fond of this program. ☀
                                  Cheers
                                  MALAISE

                                  La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                    ton baeten
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                                    Thank you very, very much for making your great utility available for Mac too.
                                    Time to get started to learn and use, but........
                                    I seem to have a problem, I get an error message restarting SU after download and installation:
                                    Error Loading File SketchyPhysics.rb
                                    Failed to load /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 7/SketchUp/plugins/SketchyPhysics3/dl.bundle

                                    SketchyPhysics shows in SU, aswell in the Tool Pallettes, as in the plugins and the icons are available/visible.

                                    Any ideas to solve this problem?

                                    greetings,
                                    Ton

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                                      xrok1
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                                      any thoughts on adding some type of joint strength? for example a table (legs attached with joints)when dropped from 10' for example, would cause the joints to break thus allowing the legs to go their seperate ways. 😄

                                      “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                        Platypus5
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                                        @cphillips said:

                                        I think I understand but I don't know why. As far as I know that stuff should work the same. Post the model and I will take a look.

                                        Sorry I did not get back to you earlier. Here is a good example of what I am talking about. The flywheel that is on "ignore" will not influence the cube it is attacthed too. It should because of the mass, but it doesn't. However, the flywheel that is NOT ignored has a significant effect on its cube.


                                        a glitch I found

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                                          willeykj
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Thank you very, very much for making your great utility available for Mac too.
                                          Time to get started to learn and use, but........
                                          I seem to have a problem, I get an error message restarting SU after download and installation:
                                          Error Loading File SketchyPhysics.rb
                                          Failed to load /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 7/SketchUp/plugins/SketchyPhysics3/dl.bundle

                                          SketchyPhysics shows in SU, aswell in the Tool Pallettes, as in the plugins and the icons are available/visible.

                                          Any ideas to solve this problem?

                                          Have you checked the directory mentioned to see if dl.bundle is there?
                                          Make sure you installed the SP files and directory into the system library and not your personal library.
                                          So it should be in /Library not in /Users/YOU/Library

                                          And by the way, this will only work on INTEL macs - not on PowerPC systems... sorry for not mentioning that in the install file

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                                            ton baeten
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                                            Kevin,

                                            Everything is at the right place, but.........
                                            I will have to wait till my new 17" powerbook (intel-based) arrives.

                                            Thanks for your info,

                                            greetings,
                                            Ton

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