How to make this into a log cabin
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Yes Fred I can certainly see how you could get very frustrated with it, some things just don't seem to make sense at all and made even worse knowing that the correct plan would mean much less cutting and would go up in three or four days, minus site preparation, it sounds like your on a very tight schedule and even though a slab would be better it would eat up your allotted time.
How long before you go.
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Hi Ant,
well, basically, we go 2 times a year with as much volunteers as possible.
(a medical team and a team of 'handyman' (not sure what the correct english word is).
I ofcourse am a member of the last team.
We go in April and in September and both times about a week.
However, we also have to make shelter for the dogs, or move shelters to other places, repair locks or make new roofs so basically there is always a lot to do, and to little time to do it in
(we also have to prepare the operationroom for the medical team and maybe we are even going to help in another shelter that needs more help (higher priority than building a cabin)
(and that's why i try to go with some volunteers some trips in between.
It is possible to tell them to make a concrete floor (that is something they can do if we tell them the correct size/coordinates) and if that one is ready when we arrive, then we can start building. (Hopefully in April, but it is also possible that we are going to move some big shelters and put the cabin in that empty spot).
I am (unfortunately
not the one who is deciding that, i just grabbed this problem and am trying to solve it (with a lot of help by you and others)
However, if i can say that we have a possible solution and we know the sizes, than this could become part of our goals for the next trip maybe... I'm hopefulBy the way, a SU-plan of the shelter:
(still work in progress)
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Fred,
You mention counting the cabin components by what I understand to be manually.
Sketchup will give you the current model quantities for any given component by a simple right click and select entity info. (see attached)Also attached is my third try with an alteration to balk-06.
You mentioned earlier it is possible that some of the logs may not be exact as to notches etc.
So I altered balk-06 to "fit"I wish you all the best with this project, and have one small request...please post some pictures once the effort begins/finishes.
Charlie
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Hi Charlie,
thanks for your help, and i sure will put the pictures in here once we start with this project (but that could be in April or in September (hopefully not the April after that).
I will take a look at your new skp, thanks for that!
(by the way, i did know about 'entity info', but i got the feeling that in some cases people made groups of there own, so they combined (for example) 6 logs from type 7 with 4 logs from type 8 and made this into a new object and i was not sure if SU would still count them a 6 and 4 logs or just as 1 new object. (pff, that sounds quite difficult -
Hi Fred
Decided to download this to give you a look at how I think this cabin is surposed to be put together to some extent and unfortunatly if I'm right theres not the right amount of wood to build it as it was intended giveing you a 14 metre long cabin.
Don't bother counting the balks because I've added quite a few. I'm going to try and modify it so it works but this one requires no fancy cuting other than doors and windows.
You may have been down this road yourself it seems too fit.
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Hi Anthony,
always wondering if you have post a new one if i check this thread
Today i have spoken to one of the volunteers and as soon as possible 3 or 4 of us are going to meet somewhere and talk about the two shelters that we are helping and we are going to discuss what needs to be done first. (list of priorities) and then we are going to see how much time it will all cost so to decide what we can do in April and so on.
I am really glad that with all these kind of solutions i can show at least some possibilities of building the cabin (and if possible without fancy cutting, that would even be better (less time needed probably).
It should be possible to built the cabin within these days, it is just a matter of the other things that need to be done.
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Hi Anthony,
Still out there?
Wanted to post the following message in a PM, so i wouldn't bother the rest of the community again with my endless cabin, but the PM seems te stuck in the 'outbox', so i'll post it anyway. Sorry guys!You helped me a lot some time ago with the cabin and in the beginning of March we (my wife and I) are going to the shelter to do some preparation and then in April a lot of us are going to help in the nuteringproject (?) (castration and sterilisation) of dogs and cats and education and about 4 or 5 of us are going to do the jobs in the shelter. Unfortunately this is a little group so we cannot do all that we wanted to do (we also were planning to do some jobs in another part of Bosnia but that will have to wait.
Anyways, the cabin will (I really hate this) not be created in april but i am planning a trip in July with some other people and now i am trying to manage that we put some concrete floot in the shelter in April, so that we can start building in July.
The cabin i liked very much, was your try 'a lot of wood max size' and i am still counting and drawing and calculating to be sure that this one can be build because if it can, then i can ask to create a concrete floor. Some minutes ago however, i heard how much it is going to cost to do that and that is a lot of money (for a volunteer foundation) so i am thinking about creating some kind of wall (only a couple of centimeters high) to put the cabin on (so no concrete inside the cabin).
And that could be possible if the beams that you put on the roof would go down and we use balk-05.
Pff, long story,
what i would want to ask (since you already helped me so much), could i ask you for some more help if i would be needing that?
(like which beams have you used in every wall (i am looking too ofcourse but some groups i cannot find the properties) and which one need to be cut in order to achieve that so i can tell the other people how much work we probably have to do and to figure out in what order we have to stack them)And (and this is really bad), i am looking at your skp and start to wonder why the beam on the roofs are not in the middle and see that i made a mistake in one of the beams...
Beam-04 really is 4.20 (this is correct) but the hole in the middle really is in the middle (2.10), and not at 2.00.
Would this change your drawing?I hope not, and i really hope that this year we can finish the cabin (and call it The Anthony)
regards,
Fred.
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