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      Tim Danaher
      最後由 編輯

      I know, I know...

      I've got to give three alternatives for this review I'm doing...trouble is, I can't think of anything...there was something ISTRC from AutoDesk...can't find it now, though.

      (Banzai doesn't count...it's not out yet).

      Ta,

      Cheers,

      Tim

      http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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        tinanne
        最後由 編輯

        How about Blender?

        PS, your avatar freaks me out! 😉

        Executive Director : American Society of Architectural Illustrators
        AIP 30 Competition opens soon. ASAI.org

        Architectural Rendering

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          fossa
          最後由 編輯

          I personally would stay away from Autodesk stuff unless your are wanting to invest a SERIOUS, SERIOUS amount of time, money and resources into getting people up to speed on their 3d software. Maya and Max both have near vertical learning curves and prices literally 10x that of sketchup.

          Modo302 may be a closer alternative, but I have no experience with that app.

          I'm looking forward to see what else comes up in this thread.

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            Tim Danaher
            最後由 編輯

            @tinanne said:

            How about Blender?

            PS, your avatar freaks me out! 😉

            Yeah, forceps delivery...what can you do?

            The question is apps that work like SketchUp. Fossa, I don't plan on using it, I just need to mention them in my review of SU 7. And modo and Blender are so far removed from SU that they're not contenders.

            Cheers,

            Tim

            http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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              ScottPara
              最後由 編輯

              Tim,

              I think that is where you are going to run into issues. There really is nothing that compares (closely) to Sketchup. Programs like (I hate to say this) Autocad have features like Sketchup but are not a direct competitor to Sketchup. Nothing is going to beat the simplicity of Sketchup (even though with simplicity comes limitations). Let us know what you find.

              Scott

              Love the fact that some HATE my avatar.....

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              • Chris FullmerC 離線
                Chris Fullmer
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                I think that is the beauty of the predicament he is in. He needs to present the alternatives that the company could use. And list all the pros and cons of each software. In the end, nothing beats sketchup if you're talking about usability, speed, affordable plugins, etc. So it'll be great fun to talk about the "alternatives" when we all know there are none 😄

                Chris

                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                All my Plugins I've written

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                  johnsenior1973
                  最後由 編輯

                  3D Via Shape, Truespace and Blender.

                  If you're doing a review then why does the comparison have to be apps that work like SU? SU is pretty much unique in the way it models, so there really isn't a direct comparison.

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                    Tim Danaher
                    最後由 編輯

                    JS1973 --

                    Because that's what the commission calls for. This is for 3DWorld magazine.

                    I wish upFRONT was still around 😞 ... hah! that reminds me:

                    Design Workshop refuses to die...

                    Cheers,

                    Tim

                    http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                      pilou
                      最後由 編輯

                      One
                      http://profsdesecoles.123.fr/IMG/gif/crayon.gif

                      two
                      http://www.arboiserie.com/images/te-bc3b.jpg

                      three
                      http://www.tronicsport.com/site peol/photos/photos_astuces/ast_03.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        Tim Danaher
                        最後由 編輯

                        Hah!

                        Nice one, Frenchy....like it, like it...

                        Cheers,

                        Tim

                        http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                          remus
                          最後由 編輯

                          MoI migh be worth a look, quite similar in the thinking behind it, i think, but uses quite different technology (NURBS instead of polygons.)

                          Silo might be worth a peek as well, although i dont really have enough experience with it to say much more than that.

                          http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                            Tim Danaher
                            最後由 編輯

                            Remus --

                            MoI is lovely, and Michael's done some amazing things with new ways of thinking about the interface -- I, for one really appreciate what he's doing 😉 . Thing is, it's just not aimed at the same market as SU. (Can't wait for version 2.0, though... it may have construction history in it).

                            Cheers,

                            Tim

                            http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                              remus
                              最後由 編輯

                              So your looking for programs that have a similar market to SU and a similar methodology?

                              If so id have to join the 'that could be tricky' crowd. Thats why SU is so successful, as it has a niche.

                              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                linea
                                最後由 編輯

                                @unknownuser said:

                                I think that is the beauty of the predicament he is in. He needs to present the alternatives ... And list all the pros and cons of each software. In the end, nothing beats sketchup if you're talking about usability, speed, affordable plugins, etc. So it'll be great fun to talk about the "alternatives" when we all know there are none

                                @unknownuser said:

                                MoI is lovely, and Michael's done some amazing things with new ways of thinking about the interface -- I, for one really appreciate what he's doing . Thing is, it's just not aimed at the same market as SU.

                                If the criteria is only about finding a comparable program that works in a similar way to Sketchup, maybe there isn't one, maybe 3d via (but its still in beta). The low cost of SU might define it's market more than just ease of use alone.

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                                  cheffey
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  I wish someone would develop an interface plugin that allows blender to be used like sketchup. Maybe google should license their gui?

                                  BROS RŌMAN BRÄUN

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                                  • K 離線
                                    Kenny
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    I remember looking at Softcad 3D years ago and a recent forum post on here states that it's still available http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=14664&p=111107&hilit=softcad#p111107

                                    On paper it looks good but I never found it half as easy or useful as Sketchup. I see Design Workshop was mentioned. I can't believe it's still around, I don't think it's been developed in years judging by their web site which still looks exactly the same. Again superficially similar but it doesn't compare to SketchUp in terms of ease of use and power. Sketchup was really ground breaking and 8 years later, there still isn't anything to compare to it that I know of. It got me into computer design from drawing by hand after trying Autocad, Archicad, Revit etc and getting frustrated with all of them.

                                    I'm still interested in alternatives and I'll certainly investigate Form Z spin off in development, Bonzai 3D when it comes out, but given the time Sketchup has taken to evolve into the programme we have today I'd be surprised if anything new could rival it at least initially.

                                    Kenny

                                    http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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                                      linea
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      These are free open source apps but both have sketchup-like simplicity. Still under development, but Advocado is quite similar. (Tim Sorry if this is off topic as you probably want to only compare commercial apps).

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      avoCADo :: Open Source 3D CAD

                                      avoCADo, a new open source 3D CAD project for engineers and artists alike!

                                      favicon

                                      (avocado-cad.sourceforge.net)

                                      Page not found | Wings 3D

                                      favicon

                                      (www.wings3d.com)

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                                      • F 離線
                                        fossa
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @chris fullmer said:

                                        I think that is the beauty of the predicament he is in. He needs to present the alternatives that the company could use. And list all the pros and cons of each software. In the end, nothing beats sketchup if you're talking about usability, speed, affordable plugins, etc. So it'll be great fun to talk about the "alternatives" when we all know there are none 😄

                                        Chris

                                        I can't agree more with the statement above. I've been keeping my eyes open for about 2 years now for simple 3d modeling apps and nothing even comes close to the ease of use of sketchup. Its not perfect, and has limitations but has filled a niche market that no one else seems to have any offerings for.

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                                          fossa
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          I just found this on the autodesk website. Show your colleagues this and tell them in 3 to 4 years version 1.0 may be available for a small 4 digit fee (not including subscription that will probably be mandatory by then). 🤣

                                          http://labs.autodesk.com/technologies/newport/

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                                          • C 離線
                                            cheffey
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            I saw a video of that, kind of like autodesk's version of hypershot.
                                            I'm interested in it, if it doesn't become vaporware.

                                            BROS RŌMAN BRÄUN

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