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    • J Offline
      JuanV.Soler
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      @bellwells said:

      My WW2 Vet Father does not like the Japs, for example. And for good reason. My opinion of Islamists is also far from uninformed or uneducated. I think you're all wrapped in some sort of nuanced enlightened political correctness. It's OK to despise, really.

      It is not OK to despise, bellwells.
      It is wrong.
      If you do, you become unable to keep learning.
      And to learn is what is all about.

      We have to learn, we must. We are all here. And no_one wants to be destroyed. How can you imagine any other thing ? or think you have the right and non the others ?
      Cant you see the despise is an end_way leading to nowhere but war ?

      ,))),

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        bellwells
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        @paris said:

        @bellwells said:

        Tell me where you're from, Paris, and I'll be glad to dig up some dirt on your cultural history.

        I would be pleased to tell you where I am from, however, now that I know where you are coming from I would be concerned that you would burn a cross on my lawn or poison my dog. I think this subject has come to a conclusion for me and so I bid you all adieu.

        Clever. Somehow, I think I'd need a ship or plane to get to your Euro trash flat. I wouldn't dream of poisoning your dog, but.....

        Ron

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          bellwells
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          Mr S, I appreciate your comments. Thanks.

          Ron

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            bellwells
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            @juanv.soler said:

            @bellwells said:

            My WW2 Vet Father does not like the Japs, for example. And for good reason. My opinion of Islamists is also far from uninformed or uneducated. I think you're all wrapped in some sort of nuanced enlightened political correctness. It's OK to despise, really.

            It is not OK to despise, bellwells.
            It is wrong.
            If you do, you become unable to keep learning.
            And to learn is what is all about.

            We have to learn, we must. We are all here. And no_one wants to be destroyed. How can you imagine any other thing ? or think you have the right and non the others ?
            Cant you see the despise is an end_way leading to nowhere but war ?

            It is absolutely NOT wrong to despise someone or something for cause. Would you despise the person who harmed your family?

            (Edit: Very sorry about the multiple posts above)

            Ron

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              bellwells
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              @mr s said:

              I have a few Muslim acquaintances and most have expressed their distaste, in general, for the decadent West. Most also felt that 9/11 was something America had coming to them as payback. I have tried pointing out to them the contradiction of their choice to live and work in the West whilst holding these views. That’s another story!

              This is the concept of taqiyya--a deceitful outward demeanor.

              Ron

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                kwistenbiebel
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                @bellwells said:

                It's OK to despise, really.

                Statement of the day.
                Primitive and almost something a hockey mom would say just before bed time to reassure her son :'shht now, it's ok to despise...' 😄

                pun intended.

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                  bellwells
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                  @kwistenbiebel said:

                  @bellwells said:

                  It's OK to despise, really.

                  Statement of the day.
                  Primitive and almost something a hockey mom would say just before bed time to reassure her son :'shht now, it's ok to despise...' 😄

                  pun intended.

                  Primitive, huh? Good one. Let's see how many other adjectives the enlightened crowd can come up with. Come on now, put your mushy heads together.

                  Ron

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                    solo
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                    Ron,

                    Why so aggressive?

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                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                      bellwells
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                      Pete, I'm tired of the name calling. It's petty, juvenile and typical of the left when faced with dissenting opinions.

                      Ron

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                        remus
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                        I think we've found something to agree on Ron 😄

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                          Stinkie
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                          @bellwells said:

                          @kwistenbiebel said:

                          @bellwells said:

                          It's OK to despise, really.

                          Statement of the day.
                          Primitive and almost something a hockey mom would say just before bed time to reassure her son :'shht now, it's ok to despise...' 😄

                          pun intended.

                          Primitive, huh? Good one. Let's see how many other adjectives the enlightened crowd can come up with. Come on now, put your mushy heads together.

                          Ron, I agree: no need for name calling. But then, I can think of a few occasions where you indulged in it yourself. Double standards are a no-no.

                          Anyways. Gentlemen, could we all please keep our manners? Leftist twts and neocon bst*rds alike? Don't make me come over there and put my socialist foot up yer *ss!

                          As for despising, I think it's okay too. Your mind is your own private playground. It's not okay to act upon it, though. You gotta treat people with respect, even if it's only for the sake of convention.

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                            JuanV.Soler
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                            That is well written Stinkie.
                            I agree.
                            Let´s calm.

                            ,))),

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                              bellwells
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                              Yes, calm is good. I need a rest from standing my ground. Stinkie, thanks for umpiring this round.

                              Ron

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                                pbacot
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                                @remus said:

                                You gotta treat people with respect, even if it's only for the sake of convention.

                                Thanks for the words, Stinkie. And I have long thought that we treat other people with respect for our own benefit as much as theirs.

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                                  Stinkie
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                                  @bellwells said:

                                  Yes, calm is good. I need a rest from standing my ground. Stinkie, thanks for umpiring this round.

                                  No problem. Vote Obama! 💚

                                  @pbacot said:

                                  (...) And I have long thought that we treat other people with respect for our own benefit as much as theirs.

                                  There's some truth in that, I think.

                                  If y'all will excuse me, I gotta back to worrying about my savings. 😐 The crisis has hit the shores of sunny Belgium.

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                                    tomsdesk
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                                    Well I'm glad I kept my comments at bay last night and cooler heads prevailed.

                                    I will say, calmly, I don't think it is okay to dispise, especially whole groups of people (yes, I do it, no, I don't like it...even in my personal playground). And I don't think Jesus thought(thinks?) it's okay either...at least from what I've read anyway...?

                                    (This recurring incongruity really trips my trigger!)

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