Proper_animation.rb ,some questions

Shotster · 20 Jul 2008, 22:34

What kind of software do you use to display this small picture?

It's actually an embedded Flash animation. You should get a contextual menu when you right click on it. Select "Play" to view the animation.

-Steve

pilou · 20 Jul 2008, 23:09

@unknownuser said:

What kind of software do you use to display this small picture?

and when you right click on the image you can see the name of the prog

MALAISE · 21 Jul 2008, 15:10

Hello Gents

 The transformation option will appear only if a group or component is selected

whatever the observer view is ON or OFF. I mean you click on group to reach positions ( set or get ..)
The use of stop animation observer stores the new view after all changes.
Start animation observer enables the show (scenes 1 then 2 .....)

It seems to be simple but not so obvious.

You have to select all the groups or components activated involved in the scene, after any modification of one or more groups, before setting a new position. If you jump this stage you may get strange results.

I have one question : ( Mainly for the plugin's father )

All movements are done within the same time. I mean a long displacement or a
short rotation require 1 second..( for instance )

Could it be possible later to modify this "time" parameter ?

Thanks for attention

MALAISE

morisdov · 21 Jul 2008, 17:35

Hello Guys,

When rotating an object, Setting the axis so the origin is at the center of rotation - as suggested by DaveR - is probably the eaysiest way to control the "center" of the object you are animating/rotating.
I dont have access to a mac machine so all my ruby programming and tests are done on windows only.
I read some post by RickW that Each scene/page can get its own "transition" time - so i can probably do it - but, we will never compete with true "timeline" based animations like 3DSMax and Maya, you can use few scenes to simulate a single long leg of an animation part.
When an object is selected for "animation" - in "Windows->Preferences->Shortcuts" you may define "Position X" shortcut keys if you want.
I am traying to keep this plugin "simple" by adding only "must" features if we have to, maybe later we will add more "nice to have" settings.

Keep on the good work, Moris

MALAISE · 21 Jul 2008, 18:03

Hallo Morisdov

Nice to read you again.
Hereby I send another file using the plugin you've made.

Just see how fast is the boat crossing the gate ( what 's the name in English ?)
( even if I modify animation setting ) but I will survive
Thanks you once more time.

MALAISE

boat and water gates ?

me3mar · 21 Jul 2008, 20:18

is it possible to render such an animation using proper_animation.rb and vray ?

MALAISE · 22 Jul 2008, 06:58

Hello Guys

I see, you've downloaded the file. About Vray, i'm not experienced.
Maybe one of us have already opened the way ??

MALAISE

Shotster · 22 Jul 2008, 07:10

I've been trying some paper folding animations using nested components. The animation of a nested component works as expected when in the context of (i.e. editing) the parent component. However, when not in component edit mode, the nested component does not animate properly. It does move - but typically way out of view, off in left field. It appears that when you're editing the parent component, the nested component's motion is relative to its parent, but when not editing the parent component, the motion is relative to something else.

Any chance this could be "fixed" so that nested components always move relative to their parent?

-Steve

Gaieus · 22 Jul 2008, 08:35

Hi Malaise,

Could you add one more scene "in between" when moving your ship? (Of course it should be added within the transformation script itself - it wouldn't work "from outside").

@__Steve__- I haven't played around with this but what if you set the origin of both your parent and child component to the original world axis? I can imagine it has something to do with active axes somehow.

MALAISE · 22 Jul 2008, 10:54

Hi Gaieus

Interesting suggestion, let me try.. ( stepping motorized boat maybe ?)
Thanks

MALAISE

Gaieus · 22 Jul 2008, 11:26

But then also turn off (set to 0) the animation delayin the Model info > Animation settings (there will be a very short delay anyway I'm afraid).

Shotster · 22 Jul 2008, 23:48

@gaieus said:

Steve- I haven't played around with this but what if you set the origin of both your parent and child component to the original world axis?

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I don't see how that will help, as I need the components to rotate about different axes.

roberta · 23 Jul 2008, 09:45

Hello there,

I'm using a MAC and downloaded proper-animation.rb but everytime I right klick the component and try to "get position" in order to record it for the animation sketch-up crashes.
Is there anything I can do about that?
Could anyone help?

Thanks Roberta

MALAISE · 23 Jul 2008, 13:19

Hi Roberta,

You 're not the first to encounter such a problem on MAC. It's due to MAC way of
managing ruby plugins. Our friend Morisdov is already warned about this. Just have a look in the same folder. N Lindenthal has the same strange behaviour.

301 Moved Permanently

(www.sketchucation.com)

MALAISE

morisdov · 23 Jul 2008, 13:31

Robert i emailed you PM with the older version of the plugin.
See if it does not crush on a MAC.

morisdov · 23 Jul 2008, 14:21

@n lindenthal said:

My Mac has proper animation with proper_animation, if I drag the folder »extensionmanager« out of Tools folder. Then the right mouse click menue on marked objets has the item »Transformation«.
Now the question would be, whether this same folder »extentionmanager« also disturbs the context menue of SketchUp on Windows PC.

I can not find a comparable folder on my Windows machine.
My Plugin itself is properly wrapped in a module and is not using any global variables, so there should be no collision with other plugins.
Can you zip and email me the contents of that folder ?
See if its removal has no other negative consequenses.

tomasz · 26 Jul 2008, 21:41

Hi Malaise,

I have rendered your robot. It is a VERY quick an dirty test.
Will need more time to fix few things in gui

p.s. I couldn't attach avi directly

KT render @ low quality - ca. 3 frames per minute

miikka1978 · 29 Jul 2008, 07:12

Tomasz and morisdov,
Looks great! Finally we will be able to render simple Sketchup animations with moving objects in Kerkythea. At least I assume that Tomasz's animation was rendered in Kerkythea.

N Lindenthal · 29 Jul 2008, 11:06

Mac OS X 10.4.10, SketchUp 6 (6.4.120)

@malaise said:

…
N Lindenthal has the same strange behaviour. …

My Mac has proper animation with proper_animation, if I drag the folder »extensionmanager« out of Tools folder. Then the right mouse click menue on marked objets has the item »Transformation«.

Now the question would be, whether this same folder »extensionmanager« also disturbs the context menue of SketchUp on Windows PC.

MALAISE · 2 Aug 2008, 06:09

Hi Animation's Fellows !

I'm still using proper_animation, and drawing quite more complex models used for
technical and education purpose. It's one of the easiest way to give explanation
about repeating séquences done by machines

Only one question : Has someone made what I name a "knee" ?
A component is rotating along its axe , a second one
may turn around an reference attached to the first component.
( think to a leg with its knee )
I can't reach a stable axe for the 2nd group.

Thank for any remarks.

MALAISE