Are you ready for SketchUp 7 news?
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Thank you, Coen, for the long newsletter.
I am pleased that Aidan (geez, the guy used to work down the street from me and now he's a star!) left open the possibility that some kind of new product demonstration might occur at Basecamp. Otherwise I'm afraid that the gathering will be a wake, however jovial.
Oh well, there will always be something else if SU turns into a toy for GE jockeys. I write this as I complete, for the first time in five or so years, a project using another package as my main modeler.
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I did notice that quote, Pete...along with a couple of other points I want reread and digest a bit more (though as Coen and others suggest: any interpretation on my part is still just a "not particularly educated" quess :`)
Here's the stuff of my hopes for the future, and I'm happy to support them along the way as I need them:
"CatchUp: Last question for this interview: Where do you see Sketchup going?
Fredo: It is true that I don’t really perceive the direct involvement of Google in the Sketchup Ruby community. When I see SketchyPhysics, Subdivide & Smooth, Free Form Deformation, Soap Skin & Bubble, Skin, LightUp and many other great scripts, I would have expected that the Sketchup designers at Google give feedback and also more insight on what would come next in the official version (including the API itself, whose documentation can largely be improved). I can however see the dilemma: Keep Sketchup simple to learn and to use, or make it a giant design factory as complex as Blender or 3D Max. Maybe the plugin approach is the right compromise, but then, I think Google should still put a little bit of effort in helping the community of script developers and users."
With this scenerio, however, my attitude would be to stay away from future upgrades of SU, unless they include some of the basic stuff noted on the wishlist thread, as they are quite likely to become even more cumbersome than the changes from 5 to 6. I just hope the ruby genius' share these thoughts and keep compatability with older versions.
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Lewis, if it gets too dry, we can always cruise over to Apple's WWDC, get a pass for the vendor area and see how many freebies we can get out of there with.
Todd
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@unknownuser said:
Lewis, if it gets too dry, we can always cruise over to Apple's WWDC, get a pass for the vendor area and see how many freebies we can get out of there with.
Todd
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Thanks for the link
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thank you very much, Coen.
that magnificent newsletter was really worth waiting for!
I have sacrificed some hours sleep to read it through by now.
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Nice work Coen....
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Great Job Coen, One of the nicest "newsletters" I've seen on-line.
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Great work Coen, thanks for all the hard work!
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Wow!!
I agree: Nice work!
Regards
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Tks for the newsletter Coen, great work! it was well worth the time you keept us in the dark.
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Congratulations Coen (and the other contributors involved) for the nice newsletter.
It is a joy to read. Thanks for that.I didn't find any useful news on the upcoming SU7 itself though (= none at all).....
The title of this thread is a bit misleading.
Sure it's about 'Sketchup news'...but not about the Seven.
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Hi Coen, hi folks.
Excellent job.
Great informative newsletter.
Superb idea.
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@lewiswadsworth said:
@papyrus said:
A new compete will start with FormZ and their new programme : BonZai 3D
Read this :
http://architosh.com/news/2008-05/0513_aia_bonzai_3D.htmlIt's good for us.
FormZ is such a piece of 1990's foolishness. I have difficulty believing the company that produces it is capable of any innovation...not that we have been seeing much progress in that area anyway.
You will be surprised of Auto-ded-sys!
A friend of mine saw today the preview and he told that it will be a good competitor of SU.
Let's see...Ciao, Gio
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@gio said:
You will be surprised of Auto-ded-sys!
A friend of mine saw today the preview and he told that it will be a good competitor of SU.
Let's see...Oh, I'm sure they have some eye-candy. And devoted fanatics, like any other program.
But they also have a great reputation for producing expensive, cumbersome, "also-ran" software. I should know...I carried two licenses for their ridiculous flagship for six years. I have a key-chain's worth of those retarded hardware locks.
In any case, is this not a SketchUp forum, and a thread devoted to SU 7 news? There are others devoted to alternative modelers. Whole forums on other sites, in fact.
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@lewiswadsworth said:
Oh, I'm sure they have some eye-candy. And devoted fanatics, like any other program.
Wow!!!!
What a "devoted fanatic" you seem to be!
Peace!
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So the owner (!) of Auto-de-sys (maybe it should be "Auto-de-fé") was at the booth at the AIA convention today. He went on and on about people were always sending him SketchUp models that couldn't be 3D printed, and that they ended up completely rebuilding the models and SketchUp was a primitive toy and so forth.
I interrupted him and pointed out that I've never had any problem with getting my SU files made into STL for printing, and that I've helped various firms win major RCP's with SketchUp models and renderings, and even done fairly well myself in a few. He insisted this was not possible; I suggested that I was simply very lucky. He insisted I couldn't turn SketchUp files into STLs. I said I used a script, or if it was too complex I simply imported the file into Rhino and used their STL exporter. I suggested again that perhaps I was just really, really lucky.
He became really, really angry. I thought he might hit me.
I mentioned this to...ahem...another SCF regular in attendance, and she suggested it was because SketchUp is eating away at his retirement fund, and he knows it.
(I did see the demo for their SketchUp-challenger, which is about 80% of the old FormZ tools minus any of the cool NURBS capabilities and with a warmed over SU interface. Yawn.)
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Rock on, Lewis, rock on.
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@lewiswadsworth said:
So the owner (!) of Auto-de-sys (maybe it should be "Auto-de-fé") was at the booth at the AIA convention today. He went on and on about people were always sending him SketchUp models that couldn't be 3D printed, and that they ended up completely rebuilding the models and SketchUp was a primitive toy and so forth.
I interrupted him and pointed out that I've never had any problem with getting my SU files made into STL for printing, and that I've helped various firms win major RCP's with SketchUp models and renderings, and even done fairly well myself in a few. He insisted this was not possible; I suggested that I was simply very lucky. He insisted I couldn't turn SketchUp files into STLs. I said I used a script, or if it was too complex I simply imported the file into Rhino and used their STL exporter. I suggested again that perhaps I was just really, really lucky.
He became really, really angry. I thought he might hit me.
I mentioned this to...ahem...another SCF regular in attendance, and she suggested it was because SketchUp is eating away at his retirement fund, and he knows it.
(I did see the demo for their SketchUp-challenger, which is about 80% of the old FormZ tools minus any of the cool NURBS capabilities and with a warmed over SU interface. Yawn.)
I'm hoping that you're wrong. I want their Sketchup challenger to wipe the floor with Sketchup. If that happens then Google will have serious motivation to improve SU. If SU's challengers are nowhere near as good as SU then they don't need to improve.
I know nothing about STL's and 3D printing. Is the script you used your own creation or one that is widely available? If you are one of the few people who can create STL's with SU and the new A-d-s system does it easily I can understand him getting pissed off with you.
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You're a great source of underground info, Lewis.
Very interesting, very interesting
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