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      alan wood
      last edited by alan wood

      Hi Guys,
      Just a quick hello. I'm doing a fair bit at present on the topic of dovetailing by hand and will be able to give pointers on this topic if anyone is interested.
      cheers
      Alan
      http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com

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        remus
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        Sure youve got enough SU modles on there alan? πŸ˜›

        Very nice site though, lots of interesting reading for a woodworking newb like myself, only now do i realise how inaccurate everything i do is, better get practicing!

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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          alan wood
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          Hi Remus,
          I'll be happy sharing some of my sketchup models at some stage as well, as a 'how to do' type of article. I'm finding sketchup an ideal way of communicating.
          cheers
          Alan.
          http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.cocm

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            Sawduster
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            In addition to designing detail furniture pieces, I find SU is also handy for describing how to do things in woodworking. The adage that a picture is worth a thousand words is very true, and having some way to quickly make a model of something to include with the vergage makes is a lot easier to explain processes, describe jigs etc. I use it on wood working forums quite a lot.

            May all your dimensions be the sum of their total.

            Jerry

            http://www.sawdustersplace.com

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              Chiefwoodworker
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              Alan,

              Great site with lots of good info. I'll be reading through it when I get home from visiting on Cape Cod.

              Joe.....
              http://www.srww.com

              Joe....
              http://www.srww.com

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                alan wood
                last edited by

                Hi Joe,
                Thanks for that. Love your web site to.
                Another one added to my favourites. Its just amazing what is out there on the web.
                cheers
                Alan.
                http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com

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                  SchreiberBike
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                  It's great to have this forum available. I'll be referring people here often. I was reluctant to to do that before, because people often got the impression that SU was an architect's tool and it turned people off from the site.

                  I'm zeroing in on a workbench design which I plan to start on soon. Let me know if you have any suggestions. My first suggestion on the topic is to read Christopher Schwarz' new book. I learned lots from it and am now re-designing based on what I learned there.

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                    Sawduster
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                    One of these days, when I get caught up in the shop, I'm gonna build a workbench from scratch. Right now I'm using a store bought that I've made some alterations to, replaced the cheapo front vise with a leg vise, added a thick front skirt with dog holes for my hold fasts, added a planing stop on the end.

                    I think the biggest mistake a lot of folks make is over-accessorizing a bench. They want to include every gadget they see out there. A simple, but versatile bench that works the way you work. Before CS's book, I looked all over trying to find a central repository for work holding methods, but found almost nothing. Going through old magazines, I found some stuff, but it was usually bits and pieces. I added a page to my web site some time back and posted some of the methods I use, and solicited stuff from other folks. If you're interested, here is link to the page.http://www.sawdustersplace.com/Workholding/Workholding.htm

                    May all your dimensions be the sum of their total.

                    Jerry

                    http://www.sawdustersplace.com

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                      Gidon Yuval
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                      Jerry hi,
                      What do you think of this shop-built workbench that appeared in Fine Woodworking Magazine?

                      New-Fangled Workbench.pdf

                      If you don't know where you're going, you're never going to get there.

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                        Dave R
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                        Gidon,

                        I think that bench is very good. It is flexible in use and fairly inexpensive to build. I drew it up as per the article you referenced. I'm planning to build it but I'll have to make it shorter to fit in my shop.
                        NF_Benchback.jpg

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                          Dave R
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                          @schreiberbike said:

                          It's great to have this forum available. I'll be referring people here often. I was reluctant to to do that before, because people often got the impression that SU was an architect's tool and it turned people off from the site.

                          I'm zeroing in on a workbench design which I plan to start on soon. Let me know if you have any suggestions. My first suggestion on the topic is to read Christopher Schwarz' new book. I learned lots from it and am now re-designing based on what I learned there.

                          Hey John, Have you looked at John White's New Fangled Bench referenced by Gidon? Unless you have in mind to build one of those benches that ought to be in a living room, the NF Bench seems like a good option.

                          I want to take a look at Chris Schwarz' book. He asked me to fix the three SU models of the benches so that they'd actually be usable models. I need to get that work done. Anyway, good luck on a designing your bench.

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                            Gidon Yuval
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                            Dave, any chance of you posting the skippy?

                            If you don't know where you're going, you're never going to get there.

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                              Sawduster
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                              Some great ideas built into that bench. I like the planing hook as well as the board jack. My tail vise mostly serves as a place to store my bench dogs, though I have used it as a big clamp on a couple occassions to glue up a panel. But that is just me, and I understand other folks use the heck out of theirs. I only mention it since the one drawback I see to that bench is the limitation of benchtop space in which to drill dog holes. I use my hold fasts constantly at the bench and the mechanism cover for the tail vise precludes an operator side row of dog holes. Planing rabbets (rebates) and some other edge treatments need to be braced against movement across the width of the bench as well as to the end and I'll often use a batten held in place with hold fasts for those operations.

                              Also like the versatility of using a couple of pipe clamps as a front vise.

                              May all your dimensions be the sum of their total.

                              Jerry

                              http://www.sawdustersplace.com

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                                SchreiberBike
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                                @dave r said:

                                Hey John, Have you looked at John White's New Fangled Bench referenced by Gidon? Unless you have in mind to build one of those benches that ought to be in a living room, the NF Bench seems like a good option.

                                I have and I admire it both because it is full of new ideas and it appears to be extremely practical. But it doesn't sing to me. I want something heavier - probably much heavier - and there is some value to a more traditional look for me. No plan to make a "show benche" that looks like it's never used, but aesthetics do matter to me for the place where I spend most of my shop time.

                                @dave r said:

                                I want to take a look at Chris Schwarz' book. He asked me to fix the three SU models of the benches so that they'd actually be usable models. I need to get that work done. Anyway, good luck on a designing your bench.

                                DO READ Chris's book. It's a different workbench book than any other and it changed quite a few of my thoughts based on its approach and its suggestions.

                                I've found Chris's plans quite easy to model just as they are simple to construct. I'm looking at a cross between a Ruobo and a Shaker with use of plywood where it makes the most sense.

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                                  Gidon Yuval
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                                  Is Chris Schwarz's book available on the net?

                                  If you don't know where you're going, you're never going to get there.

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                                    Sawduster
                                    last edited by

                                    Chris' book is available here: http://www.lostartpress.com/product/3513e08a-2f07-4616-8f2f-74017f296377.aspx

                                    May all your dimensions be the sum of their total.

                                    Jerry

                                    http://www.sawdustersplace.com

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                                      Gidon Yuval
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                                      Thanks πŸ‘

                                      If you don't know where you're going, you're never going to get there.

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                                        Chiefwoodworker
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                                        Hi Folks,

                                        I just got back from a woodworking show in Saratoga, NY. A great show. Everything from turnings to large case construction. Best of all Chris Schwarz was there and I got a signed cop of his book. Haven't read it yet, but have thumbed through it. It looks like the usual great job by Chris. It also came with a CD that Chris says has the whole book on it plus a lot of material he couldn't put in the book.

                                        Gidon, it is available on the internet. If you haven't already found it and purchased it try http://www.amazon.com/Workbenches-Design-Theory-Construction-Use/dp/1558708405 .

                                        Joe....
                                        http://www.srww.com

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                                          Bart Leetch
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                                          Just checking this place out I was directed to this forum from Sawmill Creek.

                                          Bart

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                                            Gidon Yuval
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                                            Hi Bart,
                                            Pull up a chair and make yourself at home πŸ˜„
                                            Been Using SketchUp long?

                                            If you don't know where you're going, you're never going to get there.

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