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    Base Camp 2008 - Europe?

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    • K 離線
      kwistenbiebel
      最後由 編輯

      Oh...I didn't know that.
      I always get the mental image of Hercule Poirot on a luxury ship solving a murder, when I think about cruises.

      But cheaper than a hotel room hey? Now the idea starts to grow on me 😉

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      • M 離線
        mateo soletic
        最後由 編輯

        First I Would like to say that it is a good thing that we have
        seriously started discussing the possible base camp Europe.

        Since my town is a home port to many of these Cruise ships
        I have some inside information that I think is necessary to
        shed some light on this topic .

        First:

        @unknownuser said:

        Oh...I didn't know that.
        I always get the mental image of Hercule Poirot on a luxury
        ship solving a murder, when I think about cruises.

        The cruise holiday has only recently become available to masses.
        The last couple of Years have seen the cruise industry expand
        greatly. It is the most growing tourist industry with the most
        satisfied percentage of clients.

        @unknownuser said:

        I don't think €322 (sharing) for 7 nights full board is
        expensive.

        It is not expensive if say a hundred people could get that price.
        What they usually do is advertise some of the cheapest inside cabins
        Some of which are limited. The other cabins are much more expensive.

        @unknownuser said:

        There are some quite good deals to be had and I imagine better
        if there are some numbers involved.

        Another problem might be accommodating larger number of
        people at short notice. I was told that a six month in advance
        booking for larger groups is a usual thing. If we are serious on
        this I think we should start inquiring now because it will take
        us at least two months to get organised here as to who is going .

        @unknownuser said:

        Its an ALL IN PACKAGE i.e. no extras.

        Another thing to bear in mind is that they don’t allow people to
        bring alcohol on board. The catch is in the fact that drinks are very
        expensive on board. This is one of the mayor income to them .
        The excursions they organise are also expensive. Sometimes up
        to 100 Euro per person. But one can get around with that.
        One can organise excursions directly through local agency and
        save more than 50% .

        So the mayor problem might be the booze.

        And for the end :
        The best informative price I got from a close contact
        from a competitive company was 550 Euro inside cabin
        and 650 euro outside cabin. This would be for a group
        100-150 people around the same time and similar destinations.
        He also told me that this is the only availability for such
        a group this Year.

        Everything else has been booked well in advance.

        This is the price per person in a double room.
        Children can go free in a four bed cabin.
        Another additional expense is the tax of 115
        euro per person which is not included in the price.

        The ship is MSC Opera.
        http://www.cruise-ferry-center.com/hr/default.asp?id=1051

        Concept Illustrations

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        • EddyNLE 離線
          EddyNL
          最後由 編輯

          Hey guys,

          I'm new here, whats all this talk about Base Camp?
          Is it like a get-together for SU users?

          viewtopic.php?f=271&t=11903 Modelling my city for Google Earth!

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          • M 離線
            mateo soletic
            最後由 編輯

            Right James,
            I think that all these facts should be put forward and say
            we come to an average price of say XY Euros per person .
            for a weeks holiday. The transportation could be then calculated
            and added individually, You from Ireland, Me from Croatia...
            to form the final expected expenditure.
            And then we can ask how many people are going and see what
            we get.

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            • plot-parisP 離線
              plot-paris
              最後由 編輯

              @mateo soletic said:

              The best informative price I got from a close contact
              from a competitive company was 550 Euro inside cabin

              @mateo soletic said:

              Another additional expense is the tax of 115
              euro per person which is not included in the price.

              so it is 665 Euro...

              @unknownuser said:

              And just to add to that list Mateo, some of us would have to fly to the respective country and make our way to the port ..so add cost of flight and transportation.

              lets asume 100 Euro for travel there and back again.
              then we are at 765 Euro (and haven't took any excursions or alkohol in account)

              I am afraid for some (poor students like me for example) this will be quite a lot of money 😕

              for comparisson: you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

              I would like the idea of a whole ship full of SketchUp nerds very much though 😄

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              • M 離線
                mateo soletic
                最後由 編輯

                @unknownuser said:

                you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

                Yes but here You get five - six to ten courses meals a day. Everyone gain at least 3-4 kilos
                after they return. Free massages Spa, theatre, cinemas , entertainment of all sorts.
                But the drinks might be a problem. I think the cheapest bottle of Wine is 20 euros.

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                • plot-parisP 離線
                  plot-paris
                  最後由 編輯

                  @mateo soletic said:

                  Free massages Spa, theatre, cinemas

                  ok. I am in! 😄

                  I am not so sure about gaining weight - half of us will lose 3 kg due to sea-sickness 😉

                  food inclusive is definitely a point...

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                  • S 離線
                    sepo
                    最後由 編輯

                    I think we should stay on firma terra 😉

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                    • L 離線
                      linea
                      最後由 編輯

                      @unknownuser said:

                      lets asume 100 Euro for travel there and back again.
                      then we are at 765 Euro (and haven't took any excursions or alkohol in account)

                      I am afraid for some (poor students like me for example) this will be quite a lot of money

                      for comparisson: you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

                      I would like the idea of a whole ship full of SketchUp nerds very much though

                      Plot my initial thoughts on the cruise idea were that it will be
                      very expensive. But all things considered it might be one of the cheapest, nicest options.
                      If we stayed in a major city such as London we could easily get budget hotel accomodation but we would have to pay London prices for meals, conference facilities, excursions, etc and also pay for travel to and from these places. Conference facilities aren't in short supply in London but they aren't cheap, getting a venue with individual computers for each participant can cost £200 a day per person.
                      Obviously the further away we go from a major city these sort of facilities are cheaper but we could then find that interesting excursion venues are further away too, so travel time and expense would go up.
                      Alternatively I think Watkins mentioned using a university campus as they will have the conference facilities we need and accomodation stood empty all summer (probably a cheap bar too!). I think that is a really good idea that we could consider but for an all in price in surroundings that would suit everybody I reckon a cruise ship is a very good option.

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                      • plot-parisP 離線
                        plot-paris
                        最後由 編輯

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Alternatively I think Watkins mentioned using a university campus as they will have the conference facilities we need and accomodation stood empty all summer (probably a cheap bar too!).

                        well, that is a very interesting suggestion. and universities could even support the BaseCamp (by renting the accommodations for a good price).

                        perhaps we should even set up a competition for universities;
                        to get the honour of housing the Base Camp Europe 2008! (we should start designing a nice poster (bosting off with all the skills that come together in this forum)... 😎 )

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