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    • D Offline
      dtrarch
      last edited by

      Bingo

      After a little messing around with Joint PP I did find a basic solution to the old and messy Twisted Sister issue in SU path extrude.

      At last it is really possible to create at least a simple roadway using an inclined path that really stayed level using the JointPushPull ruby set.
      Just a brilliant ruby solution and terrific docs too.

      Many thanks to Fredo6 for this impressive work.

      The basic first shot is attached

      dtr


      No Twist Solution.skp

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        Yes indeed thanks to Fred06 and to you for the explanatory skps

        Mike

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        • JClementsJ Offline
          JClements
          last edited by

          detrach:

          In your .skp you mention choice "J". I don't have that listed in my PullDown menu.

          Has there been newer release of the ruby or is this a typo?

          John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            @jclements said:

            detrach:

            In your .skp you mention choice "J". I don't have that listed in my PullDown menu.

            Has there been newer release of the ruby or is this a typo?

            "J" is what it says on the tool icon if you have it turned on... there are two icons- both with a push/pull looking graphic and one has a J .. the other has a V

            dotdotdot

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              "J" for "Joint PP" (briefly and roughly perpendicular to faces) and "V" for "Vector PP" (in one direction).

              Gai...

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              • JClementsJ Offline
                JClements
                last edited by

                OK.

                I had forgotten about the toolbar.

                J

                John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                • erikBE Offline
                  erikB
                  last edited by

                  I am sorry dtarch but I do not understand how you get from the extruded line to the (not twisted) road in your example file ?
                  If I JPP de extruded line I do not get your result. any help ?
                  erikB

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
                    last edited by

                    Where can I find the extrude vector 2 points ruby?

                    http://www.solos-art.com

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                    • erikBE Offline
                      erikB
                      last edited by

                      Solo,
                      I have a separated ruby that extrudes by vector but I do not remember where I got it. BUT the function is also available in the projection ruby by Didier Bur witch you can find on this forum.
                      greetings, erikB

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                      • soloS Offline
                        solo
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for the reply, I will try find the separate ruby, if anyone knows where I can find it I would appreciate the help.

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                        • erikBE Offline
                          erikB
                          last edited by

                          solo, I looked it up in the ruby and the initial ruby was also by Didier. So I guess I can put it here on the forum since it was a free ruby. If I couldn't please let one of the mod's remove it.
                          greetings erikB


                          extrudelinetool.rb

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                          • soloS Offline
                            solo
                            last edited by

                            Thank you, I would never have found it as the name is different to the one I was searching for.

                            http://www.solos-art.com

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                              dtrarch
                              last edited by

                              ErikB

                              Sorry to miss all the problems finding the ruby.

                              FYI I draw a vector in the direction and height needed.
                              It can be anywhere as it is just a reference entity.
                              If snapped to the line to extrude it is a good idea to group the vector reference.

                              You can see it in my first scene.

                              Hope this helps a bit.

                              dtr

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                                a4chitect
                                last edited by

                                dtrarch which version of the JPP script are you using? because mine doesn't allow to set "normal to blue axis". is it a different version, or am I just doing something wrong?

                                thanks for your perfect workaround for creating 'correct' roads. I suggest using this approach to generate appropriate surface for the road (from simplified road contours) and then draping the exact shape of the road on this surface to get precise road surface

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                                  a4chitect
                                  last edited by

                                  all right - I guess that the 'missing' normal to blue axis is not available in the graphical JPP.

                                  this is what fredo6 says about setting privileged plane in his visual edition:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  For Joint Push Pull, you can set the privileged plane by using short cuts Ctrl+Arrow, or just pressing Ctrl to enter a mode where you can specifiy any plane visually.

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                                  • erikBE Offline
                                    erikB
                                    last edited by

                                    I am sorry dtarch, but I still don't get it !
                                    I know how to extrude the line, that is not the problem but how do you get from the vertical plan thus created to the PP road using the ruby ?
                                    I tried all the differt ways to JPP but couldn't reach your result. I clearly missing something πŸ˜• Any clarification ?
                                    erikB

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                                    • D Offline
                                      dtrarch
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi erikB

                                      Here is the sequence.

                                      1-an inclined curved path was created with grouped vector on z axis to use as the extrude by 2 points path.

                                      2-using the [extrudelinetool] ruby (by 2 vector points) the path was extruded up the z axis.

                                      3-the face created was selected and the [J] icon for the Joint PP was selected using the settings per my post.(use the [tab] to access same.

                                      4-the tool was then used to PP the face and it was done.
                                      β˜€ πŸ˜„

                                      Hope this clears things up for you.

                                      dtr

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                                      • erikBE Offline
                                        erikB
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks dtarch, got it now. It was the crtl-arrows function in conjunction with the jpp that did the trick. Sorry for the hassle.
                                        greetings, erikB

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                                          dtrarch
                                          last edited by

                                          erikB

                                          Glad to help

                                          Of course a no-twist extrude along path would be the real answer but jointPP will work pretty well and glad to have it

                                          dtr

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