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    monsterzero
    last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:41

    I've been slowly working away at my comic and I'm beginning to gain some awesome momentum. The results are my first hard core page roughs:

    http://www.giantmonster.tv/giant/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/s04_hunter-attack-_1sm.jpg

    http://www.giantmonster.tv/giant/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/s04_hunter-attack-_2sm.jpg

    You can read my blog post about it here:
    http://www.giantmonster.tv/giant/?p=401

    I wanted to hear from hardcore Layout users if they think I can do all this in Layout. I've tried it when version 6 first came out but it didn't click with me (I found it cumbersome to use). I might need to give it another try. FYI, all the image panels come from 1 single SU file, with multiple cars, and characters repeated over a long flat landscape. The foot print is massive.

    My next steps are to layout some tonal tests, and then just jump into final images.

    monsterzero
    My New Twitch Stream!
    https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
    infinitemachine.com

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      CraigD
      last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:41

      Wow! That's got some serious action! I can't believe your SketchUp work transcends to the comic layout that well! Incredible!!

      We could use your feedback on LayOut. Just send it to me (you know how) when you can, and I'll make sure it gets in front of the right people's eyes.

      Great job Monster!! Fantastic!!

      • CraigD

      Google SketchUp

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        jenujacob
        last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:42

        just one word - awesome! πŸ’š πŸ‘ πŸ’š

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          marked001
          last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:42

          wow justin, this is just awesome!! so glad you made it to this point πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ will definitely be awesome if you can do this all in layout..

          http://www.revision21vis.com

          instagram: revi21on

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            monsterzero
            last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:43

            Thanks guys!

            Here's a polished up version of one of the panels:

            http://www.giantmonster.tv/giant/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/mayaposing6.jpg

            You can see some of my Maya posing and SU importing on my blog:
            http://www.giantmonster.tv/giant/?p=404

            Once this scene is done, I'll be thinking about creating a SU Style, and putting all the panels into Layout. That Layout test will determine if I use it or not (or consider the next rev). I'm not sure if it can handle all the geometry I have to throw at it.

            monsterzero
            My New Twitch Stream!
            https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
            infinitemachine.com

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              linea
              last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:43

              That's really interesting, I've been thinking just this week about approaching a local magazine with a comic / illustrative concept. I had my sketchpad out and tried to reacquaint myself with hand drawing. I hadn't actually thought of including sketchup in the production.

              Good work.

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                monsterzero
                last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:44

                I just wanted to add that this is an ongoing process for me, and that the look of the comic might change as I further develop it.

                Some things I still need to explore and research:

                • Different printing technologies (I'm thinking about some non-traditional binding)
                • SketchUp Styles - This is a big one, and will require some serious experimenting. I've read some how to's on creating styles, and they seem simple enough but I just gotta dig in and try it out. In addition I'm gathering some reference to use to help me define the style I'd like to emulate.
                • Dialogue text, and bubbles, plus text sound fx. This stuff is going to be tricky, and I want it to look like a traditional comic and not done on the computer per-se. My lettering is poor and I might have to enlist a pro.
                • Am I going to use Layout or Photoshop to create each page? It's likely that I'll use both, but how much will I lean on Layout?
                • Overall tones and coloring of the book. It's not going to be in color, but the tonal values are just as important. I'd like to create something that I can tweak to further the visual storytelling.

                If anyone has any thoughts on this I'm all ears.

                monsterzero
                My New Twitch Stream!
                https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
                infinitemachine.com

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                  Archi Rag
                  last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:45

                  hi, i hope u dont mind, i had a go at a quick brush/smudge in photoshop to one of your images, its a very quick technique that u could use i found that combining with the su rending works well
                  justin.jpg

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                    monsterzero
                    last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:46

                    Hey Archi! That's cool! I'm not sure I want to go through all that work to color and shape the images. That will take me ages! πŸ˜„

                    I personally like the "flatness" of some of my test images I've been doing. It actually embodies the story theme because the terrain of this world (Earth of the 'future') is flat and dry.

                    monsterzero
                    My New Twitch Stream!
                    https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
                    infinitemachine.com

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                      kwistenbiebel
                      last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:46

                      This is just great stuff πŸ˜„ 😲 Very refreshing to see this extraordinary work and truely great to see real artists integrating SU in their workflow.

                      Must keep my eye on this one. πŸ˜„

                      Cheers,
                      Kwistenbiebel

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                        marked001
                        last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:47

                        so how do you think you're going to do the text? i forgot about that portion...

                        (ps.. i'm a pretty good with lettering πŸ˜‰ )

                        http://www.revision21vis.com

                        instagram: revi21on

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                          monsterzero
                          last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:47

                          Jason, believe it or not, I wouldn't mind having someone do it by hand. So if you think you're up to it, we should talk. It'll have to wait a little since I'm early in the process, and my mind only has room for 2 things at once, and this is number 5 on that list πŸ˜„

                          But we will definitely discuss!

                          monsterzero
                          My New Twitch Stream!
                          https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
                          infinitemachine.com

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                            marked001
                            last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:48

                            sounds good, justin.. i'm always looking for something different to do (damn short attention span)

                            keep the updates coming.

                            http://www.revision21vis.com

                            instagram: revi21on

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                              monsterzero
                              last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:48

                              You and me both, brother!

                              Must... stay on target...!

                              monsterzero
                              My New Twitch Stream!
                              https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
                              infinitemachine.com

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                                monsterzero
                                last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:49

                                New versions:

                                http://www.giantmonster.tv/giant/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/s04_hunter-attack-_1smv2.jpg

                                http://www.giantmonster.tv/giant/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/s04_hunter-attack-_2smv2.jpg

                                Notes:

                                • Hugh model posed in all frames.
                                • Basic posing of the hero Hunter creature done.
                                • All background Hunters will need to be added.
                                • Visual FX not started (smoke, dirt, tire tracks etc.)
                                • Basic shading will be decided during rendering phase.

                                During the final render phase and polish in SketchUp (which will wait until the entire book is roughed), I’ll be determining shadow tones, dialogue placement, and any extra rendering elements.

                                monsterzero
                                My New Twitch Stream!
                                https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
                                infinitemachine.com

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                                  monsterzero
                                  last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:54

                                  Thanks for the mention in CatchUp Coen!

                                  As I take a breather and review all the work up til now, I still have many questions that need to be answered. Thanks for all the support by you and the rest on this forum. More to come.

                                  monsterzero
                                  My New Twitch Stream!
                                  https://www.twitch.tv/infinitestorylab
                                  infinitemachine.com

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                                    Durant Hapke
                                    last edited by 7 Feb 2008, 17:54

                                    Brothers, and Sisters,

                                    MS is pure inspiration.

                                    I've got this whole awesome deal -- time consuming, and of course powerful, but what the Jack bird is new about that?

                                    Durant "I'll draw your mutant little kids then" Hapke

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