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    GreenToaster
    last edited by 18 Jan 2008, 22:58

    . . . more fiddling with today's vehicle . . .


    bw_18-Jan-08_06.JPG


    bw_18-Jan-08_07.JPG

    If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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      GreenToaster
      last edited by 19 Jan 2008, 03:59

      . . . what would the ultimate rock crawler look like . . . not really a car . . .


      bw_rock_crawler_01.jpg

      If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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        jenujacob
        last edited by 19 Jan 2008, 04:39

        GT! that rock crawler is amazing!!! looks like u are raising ur standards to new heights!! awesome!!
        ur cars are as always marvelous! have u tried this yet??? it might even help u in ur class! πŸ˜‰

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          solo
          last edited by 19 Jan 2008, 10:17

          That rock crawler...um...Rocks!!

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            GreenToaster
            last edited by 19 Jan 2008, 14:58

            Thanks for the kind comments.

            I'd really like to finish this but there are so many other things I have to do today . . . maybe I can finish it Monday - I'm off on Monday because of MLK holiday.


            bw_rock_crawler_03.jpg


            bw_rock_crawler_02.jpg

            If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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              GreenToaster
              last edited by 19 Jan 2008, 22:22

              . . . today's car for the day . . .


              bw_car_19JAN08_01.jpg

              If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                GreenToaster
                last edited by 20 Jan 2008, 04:26

                . . . took the notebook with me & as wifey went shopping, I sat in the car and created another blah, blah, blah . . .


                bw_car_20JAN08_01.JPG

                If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                  ely862me
                  last edited by 21 Jan 2008, 19:07

                  i don t know what to say,to me isn t so hard here is my first concept car http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=c08810ef646e17596bc31dd4cacd32eb and this is my before last concept car http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=662484398c0f9ea712d7dab77a6f289

                  Elisei (sketchupper)


                  Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                    GreenToaster
                    last edited by 21 Jan 2008, 20:03

                    @unknownuser said:

                    i don t know what to say,to me isn t so hard here is my first concept car
                    WOW!

                    Did you do both of those using only SketchUp? Do you have any suggestions - a description of your workflow, perhaps?

                    Amazing cars - thanks for posting.

                    If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                      GreenToaster
                      last edited by 23 Jan 2008, 00:38

                      . . . I'm taking a hiatus from this thread. After seeing ely862me's cars & others, I realize I'm stuck and I'm not making any significant progress - I'm not getting where I eventually want to be.

                      Of course, I'm certainly not giving up - I'm going to figure out how to create the really cool stuff - just takes some folks longer than others, I guess.

                      We all need a good kick in the pants every once in a while - I got mine. Ouch!

                      πŸ˜„

                      If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                        CraigD
                        last edited by 23 Jan 2008, 03:04

                        Hey GT! Did you end up buying the book "How to Draw Cars Like a Pro"? It was a MonsterZero recommendation, so I went out and bought it!

                        IT'S AWESOME! Get it! I think it will give you some really good inspiration!

                        Model well!! πŸ˜„

                        Cheers,

                         - CraigD
                        

                        Google SketchUp

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                          ely862me
                          last edited by 23 Jan 2008, 14:44

                          people i told u for me (and i don t know why but i like it) is verry simple (almost),all concepts that i have are mine(except the concept e002 wich is a modified bugatti veyron) and is no import and are build up in sketchup i can t make a tutorial because i make them in different and manny ways depends from what i start

                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                          Come and See EliseiDesign

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                            GreenToaster
                            last edited by 23 Jan 2008, 16:50

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Hey GT! Did you end up buying the book "How to Draw Cars Like a Pro"? It was a MonsterZero recommendation, so I went out and bought it!
                            Yes! I got it from Amazon and yes, I like the book, it's very good - inspirational.

                            @unknownuser said:

                            You can't just stop now...?
                            Ha! I'll post again - I just want to have something new - something fresh & different to offer. I'm a bit frustrated getting to the next level - for me, with my limited skills and "dang-near-zero" creativity, it's quite challenging getting there.

                            This journey began a few days ago as I started poking around the menus and there are several tools I've never used - perhaps that's obvious from my cars. I also realize - as others have mentioned - there are other s/w programs out there that are probably better suited for drawing amorphic shapes like body parts for cars. I'd still like to find out how far I can go with SU - looks like there will be lots of enjoyment as I continue.

                            @unknownuser said:

                            most important is to watch the wireframes to see how are done

                            for having good proportions u can use temporary the position of the weels of a desired form of car
                            This is great advice - thanks, I'll investigate this more and try it - I'm sure this will be useful - will help me figure this stuff out. πŸ˜„

                            If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                              GreenToaster
                              last edited by 23 Jan 2008, 21:12

                              Well - here's one point where I'm "stuck". The attached file contains a wireframe for a body part - like a hood, for example. I have no clue how to turn this into a nice, good looking surface. When I use the From Contours tool the surface ends up with weird, pointed areas that I don't understand. I'm sure someone could take this handful of curves and turn it into something "beautiful" - but how?

                              Thanks a whole bunch,

                              GT


                              bw_hood_wireframe_01.skp

                              If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                                GreenToaster
                                last edited by 23 Jan 2008, 21:45

                                . . . here's almost an exact same wireframe model with a surface added using Concepts Unlimited . . . I have no idea how to do this with SU. :clueless:


                                bw_hood_02.JPG

                                If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                                  GreenToaster
                                  last edited by 24 Jan 2008, 00:42

                                  Thanks for the suggestion - I tried it but it's substantially different from the original wireframe model and the model I did using another program which has a flat surface on top with variable radius tangent arcs or conics bordering a perimeter of different sized ellipses.

                                  I can keep working with it - I'm not used to modeling this way - with these tools. This is not a complaint, but just an observation that it looks like I'm going to have to (1) learn what SU can do, then (2) model what I want rather than modeling with a limited understanding of how to get the job done.


                                  bw_hood_03.jpg

                                  If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                                    CraigD
                                    last edited by 24 Jan 2008, 04:46

                                    A quick tip GT, that you probably already know... but when you select the Circle tool, you can type in the VCB (Value Control Box) and hit Enter, to add a higher number of edges that make up the circumference of the circle. This will give you a smoother curve to work with in your geometry.

                                    CircleEdgesVCB_Default.JPG

                                    DifferentCircleEdgeSettings.jpg

                                    Cheers,

                                    - CraigD
                                    

                                    Google SketchUp

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                                      GreenToaster
                                      last edited by 24 Jan 2008, 10:28

                                      Thanks Craig - when I begin some serious modeling I'll work with changing that value. I've tried it before and it works great - like when I intersected two stretched spheres and removed material - higher number = smoother edges at trim line = higher regeneration time.

                                      BTW - I used to ride SV-650, CBR900RR, GSF-400, Ducati 900SS, plus 38 others. After my last two crashes I gave it up completely. I'll always want another bike. (snif)

                                      Brad

                                      If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                                        GreenToaster
                                        last edited by 24 Jan 2008, 13:54

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        depending how much wire u want to use u can make different qualityes, here a use medium quality
                                        So, did you use the Sandbox --> From Contours tool, or what? I don't remember seeing a means of adjusting the quality - is this done before the surface is created - when the arcs were created?

                                        Sorry to be so clueless - thanks for the help.

                                        If you really want something you won't ever stop pursuing it.

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                                          ely862me
                                          last edited by 24 Jan 2008, 21:39

                                          i didn t use the sandbox i use the hand
                                          i alway do this i fit them with hand the sanbox isn t precise
                                          i said medium quality because i wasn t use too many lines how do u expect to sandbox made a nice hood i use sandbox only for two lines two arches or something like that(i was using sandbox for the windows of my concept cars)

                                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                          Come and See EliseiDesign

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