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    • Larry BatesL Offline
      Larry Bates
      last edited by

      Ok, I've linked up to Kelly's server (step one ๐Ÿ˜† ), and am trying to reduce the size of my already huge file.(27mb) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I'm assuming that it is the scan of the floor plan image that it is so big.

      Larry

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Any links Larry?
        How on (Google) Earth could we know where you put it?

        ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

        Gai...

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        • Larry BatesL Offline
          Larry Bates
          last edited by

          Hi G,

          Well, I wasn't sure I should upload such a large file. It is ok? I will delete it later.

          Larry

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            OK, just go ahead.
            Maybe if we really don't need that image there you can delete it from the file (and purge unused materials). If you think you need that image, leave it in there for now.

            Gai...

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            • Larry BatesL Offline
              Larry Bates
              last edited by

              Thanks Gaieus,

              I'll do it sometime today.

              Larry

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              • Larry BatesL Offline
                Larry Bates
                last edited by

                http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Walts%20model%202.skp

                hope this works. ๐Ÿ˜ OK, this should work now G ๐Ÿ˜‰

                Thanks.

                Larry

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  OK,

                  So what I tried to do first was to select all (triple click) and choose "Intersect selection" and "Intersect model" several times to fill in the walls but no avail.

                  Then - still hoping that all the lines were coplanar" - I made a group of the big face with the image (and its surrounding four edges on the outsides), drew a diagonal line to "triangulate" it then made a group of the rest of the model (all the lines you had drawn) and draped this latter group onto the first one with the use of the sandbox tools.
                  Then deleted the remnants of the diagonal line, exploded bboth groups and your walls now seem to be separate faces from the big face.

                  Here is the link (once it uploads... ๐Ÿ˜’ ๐Ÿ˜ž
                  http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Walts%20model%203.skp

                  Gai...

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                  • Larry BatesL Offline
                    Larry Bates
                    last edited by

                    Um ok,

                    I don't understand, what does that do? Please don't take this wrong, I don't know how to say it in type without sounding ungrateful. How will this fix help, or is this just the first step?

                    This is not an actual job, so don't feel as you need to give me a quick fix. I am just trying to understand what I am doing wrong. ๐Ÿ˜’ ( sorry about the size, next time I'll reduce the size of the scan ๐Ÿ˜ณ )

                    Thanks for taking the time.

                    Larry

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Larry,

                      I did exactly write down every step I had done because I felt you needed the "way to do" not just the final model.

                      Please, tell me if you don't understand something - I'd be glad to help.

                      Gai...

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                      • Larry BatesL Offline
                        Larry Bates
                        last edited by

                        Gai...
                        I'm sorry, I understand what you wrote, I just was wanting to understand what it was I was doing wrong.
                        So, are you saying that because I didn't make the scan of the floor plan a separate layer that the lines were becoming part of it?

                        Modelhead, yes it is a large file, and I will make it smaller, I was trying to get as clear a scan as possible because the print was not that good that I had to work from. Making it gray scale would probably help too.

                        Thanks for your help guys.
                        Larry

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Larry, layering wouldn't help since layers do not separate geometry in SU only control visibility of them Thus you should never put "primitive" geometry on different layers - group them or make components first and only then put them onto different layers.

                          If you are worrying about your image being split up by the lines, group the image rather than put it on a separate layer.

                          As for the image size; SU "shrinks" your image to something 1024 pixels anyway so loading a bigger image is useless.

                          Gai...

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                          • AnssiA Offline
                            Anssi
                            last edited by

                            @larry bates said:

                            So, are you saying that because I didn't make the scan of the floor plan a separate layer that the lines were becoming part of it?

                            Hi Larry,

                            Layers in SU do NOT separate geometry, they are just one way of controlling the visibility of objects. So to keep your lines separate from the scanned photo, you should group it. Grouping or componentizing are the only ways to keep pieces of geometry separate in SU.

                            As to using layers, it is a good practice to draw everything on layer 0, and if you need to use layers, make groups or components of the geometry before moving it to another layer.

                            Anssi

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                            • Larry BatesL Offline
                              Larry Bates
                              last edited by

                              Gaieus,
                              Ok, smaller image got it. Thanks for your help guys. I'll remove the LARGE FILE now. ๐Ÿ˜† and try building again. I hope this is not what I have to do everytime I build something. ๐Ÿ˜•

                              Larry

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