Render: The conversation

marked001

Very nice! Love it.. looks great even without post pro

L i am

That is brilliant! (and my first post in new hear, So I wish you all a happy new year).
The only comment that I may come up with is the composition. It is a while that I have an eye on mir.no renders and I am fascinated by the photographic mood of their work. I am trying to mimic them.
So if I were you I would prefer to have more space round the subject, specially on the right of the image. I also would like to follow the landscape composition rules so the foreground and background goes somehow darker to emphasis the midground (subject).

Thanks, and a great new year for yourself and youres mate You are correct I am pretty converant with composition and the building could do with mor air and context to the Right of the image as you rightly pointed out. I was too far into the process and fixing it would have been a lot of work wich I am not normally advers to

And just in case is anybody else aware that TM does not keep or I suppose even create backup files? Not only that, it also does not, by default save incrementally ........... be aware

majid

L I A M, You already have all the needed skills including, modeling, texturing, lighting, rendering, and post pro. I think that It is time to ascend them all to the next level of making brilliant art! In my opinion, composition makes a difference. I myself am busy looking at MIR.no renders and miming after them.

ntxdave

MIR ?

majid

@ntxdave said:

MIR ?
Yea sir: https://www.mir.no/
Here is also the link to the interview: https://www.ronenbekerman.com/interview-with-mir/

L i am

@majid said:

L I A M, You already have achieved the needed skills to the highest level including, modeling, texturing, lighting, rendering, and post-pro. I think that It is time to ascend them all to the next level of making brilliant art! In my opinion, composition makes a difference. I myself am busy looking at MIR.no renders and imitating their works to improve my art.

Thanks Majid, your genuine enthusiasm for 3D art shines through Great to know a fellow enthusiast I intend to slowly transition into 3D art, I am just taking the long route, slowly slowly. Whilst modelling or rendering I listen to podcasts on archviz a lot, in fact I do not think I have left any stone unturned in that genre of podcasts. I am a member of Ronan Becermans site and many others acrchviz sites and look and study what the big boys are up to.
Maybe you asked that question because this image is heading in the direction of 3D art. Why I chose, or tend to choose clean mostly new commercial builds is that for realism clean new houses/architecture is that in my opinion are the hardest subect matter as we cant rely on decals, grunge and other cheap distracions. I hope my approuch will pay off and I am just introducing Post Production which I will need to get where I want to be in about a year or so.
Majid If you have an inspirational concept for a 3d project please let me know

majid

So I think it would be great to learn from you. Maybe a checklist that includes the main ideas.

L i am

I do not always use the same methodolgy but the synthisis of this image was I simply wanted a horizontally orientated and liked the idea of water and the wilderness. So I searched for images I liked and that had aspects of an image such as lighting Architecture and atmosphere.
I studied Industrial Design and fine arts at art school and everybody, be they fine arts, Ceramic majors, jewery design, Sculpters, graphic designers, industrial designer or Achitecture students always had a board with images as inspiration, to refere to.
In the image I have shown along with the model. I would bash together the referrence images taking aspects of them that I liked to make an image of my own. Kind of like feeding words or images into AI for a single image result.

Some time ago I would find images I liked and copy them to understand how the artist used light and copmosition amongst other things. If this seems like cheating it is not. Every oil painting students of the past would copy a masters work. And if people do not try this they are behind the eightball in my opinion. As far as chimney smoke and children and folage rocks etc, they were to lead the eye around the image and to give it depth.

                                           Model and design=8 hrs
                  Render work (adding assets in twinmotion)=2hrs
           Materilas (downloadin and creating normals maps)=2hours
        Lighting" (choosing skydomemes) and lighting design=11hrs

Post production ( Adding shove fog, smoke playing with levels)=2hrs

L i am

@majid said:

So I think it would be great to learn from you. Maybe a checklist that includes the main ideas or articles.

I do not always use the same methodolgy but the synthisis of this image was I simply wanted a horizontally orientated and liked the idea of water and the wilderness. So I searched for images I liked and that had aspects of an image such as lighting Architecture and atmosphere.
I studied Industrial Design and fine arts at art school and everybody, be they fine arts, Ceramic majors, jewery design, Sculpters, graphic designers, industrial designer or Achitecture students always had a board with images as inspiration, to refere to.
In the image I have shown along with the model. I would bash together the referrence images taking aspects of them that I liked to make an image of my own. Kind of like feeding words or images into AI for a single image result.

Some time ago I would find images I liked and copy them to understand how the artist used light and copmosition amongst other things. If this seems like cheating it is not. Every oil painting students of the past would copy a masters work. And if people do not try this they are behind the eightball in my opinion. As far as chimney smoke and children and folage rocks etc, they were to lead the eye around the image and to give it depth.

                                           Model and design=8 hrs
                  Render work (adding assets in twinmotion)=2hrs
           Materilas (downloadin and creating normals maps)=2hours
        Lighting" (choosing skydomemes) and lighting design=11hrs

Post production ( Adding shove fog, smoke playing with levels)=2hrs

majid

Wow, thanks for sharing!
This is almost the same process that I go through except for an extra emphasis on "conveying the concept". So sometimes I even chose NPR method for that reason.
The story of the scene, the mood.... what the designer is going to express...
If I were you, in this case, I would like to show the cool/warm contrast and the tranquility of the design, besides other views. So this is my raw composition sketch:

Mike Amos

Wow factor right there.

L i am

Cheers Majid that does look amazing and with an epic landscape> I am going to try to get a similar composition with geometry. Was the backdrom image royalty free? and if so your source? I would go with geometry for trees as will but Twinmotion will not handle mist with pathtracing on

majid

Liam, I searched for free wallpaper lake images but did not check the copyright to be honest.
It is a raw sketch so the perspective is totally wrong, I did not match the shore and weed/bushes with the image and there are some other flaws.

L i am

@majid said:

Thanks Liam, I searched for free wallpaper lake images but did not check the copyright to be honest.
It is a raw sketch so the perspective is totally wrong, I did not match the shore and weed/bushes with the image and there are some other flaws.

I understand the image was just an example and not finished. Do you have the image without the PP work? I was thinking I could do an image search if you posted the image on here to see the original size and copyright status. I just did an almost comprehensive search using you search phrase........nothing suitable found