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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 23 Apr 2021, 23:26

    First look at a trapezoid window (only the sheathing is cut out thus far):

    https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/a/c/acacd347dc68358bb51ea803c83bebb479b94439.jpeg

    The important point I want to make is that the left window is with the Window Direction parameter set to "LEFT", and the right window is with the parameter set to "RIGHT".

    The window height is always measured from the low or short side of the window. So if you need to match a certain overall height one would need to do a little math to get to that number. (Which makes me think it may be useful in the draw and edit menus to have this value calculated automatically for the user, and also make it an editable value.)

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 24 Apr 2021, 08:47

      First look at some framed trapezoid window openings with sloped headers:

      https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/7/d72c703f6796651e90096666945496ac4bec26cf.jpeg

      I've never seen a raised header with a sloped opening framed like this before but I guess it is a possibility:

      https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/6/9/69eed509fd5b3ebbc30760d479595d08a95d372d.jpeg

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        medeek
        last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 10:07

        Stacked openings with various raised headers and trapezoidal window openings:

        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/1/6/16315ccb409b8ccadc3f7645313e4fb2879022df.jpeg

        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/0/20a67ff4b4e6e24d05175106988f30acb519fd3a.jpeg

        I still haven't even gotten to the other wall types yet (ie. gable, shed and hip), one step at a time I guess.

        I now need to look at the insulation algorithm and then on to all of the window modules (ie. Trim, Casing and Installation). None of this is really all that difficult to code it just takes time to go through all of the various permutations and make sure nothing breaks down.

        If coded correctly, in other words the logic is efficient and modular, then not every case needs to be accounted for. The same module for the trapezoidal window trimmers and top cripples is used regardless if the windows are stacked or not. Unfortunately, things are not always this neat and tidy but that is my goal if I can achieve it.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • M Offline
          medeek
          last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 23:36

          The insulation algorithm is now working correctly with trapezoid windows:

          https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/3/d3357ebf5e140e9073b8fa50d7a052af7df0a1b7.jpeg

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 27 Apr 2021, 07:06

            First look at some trapezoid picture windows:

            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/1/c1a83b3c2208f34b2ae4dee2ca7c8dbf2e412528.jpeg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 27 Apr 2021, 19:21

              Only the “perimeter” grille style needed modification for the trapezoid window:

              https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/1/71878571072f5150e9818abaa57063b6c4375ca0.jpeg

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                medeek
                last edited by 27 Apr 2021, 22:22

                First look at exterior trim with trapezoid windows:

                https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/8/8843f3ca150afc0747fa07550739d5ac5490a9d1.jpeg

                The good news is that the various window modules (eg. window installation, trim, casing etc...) are independent of the wall type so enabling trapezoid windows for the various gable wall types should now proceed relatively quickly.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • M Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by 28 Apr 2021, 04:36

                  First look at interior casing with trapezoid windows (Style A, B, and C):

                  https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/1/f/1fcc6862632b2972e43def21cd40715adce5a1b9.jpeg

                  https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/6/6/6642a9dba5d1d78943c6a91496a42541958a2a0d.jpeg

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 29 Apr 2021, 01:12

                    First look at trapezoid windows within a gable wall:

                    https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/5/e5d05eeb5b4eeecc9049a5433845618c8b90c28e.jpeg

                    https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/7/e7e46f289d9e0fa679fd63db8b069ae7737d6e41.jpeg

                    Notice how the right most window has it's header pushed up against the top plate (no cripples or insulation installed). To achieve this one must adjust the header height until it is at the correct height since "Raised" headers are not currrently enabled for gable, shed or hip walls.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 29 Apr 2021, 09:26

                      Version 2.0.6 - 04.29.2021

                      • Added trapezoid windows to the window draw and edit menus for all wall types: rectangular, gable, shed and hip.

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su522_800.jpg

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 30 Apr 2021, 05:53

                        Version 2.0.6b - 04.29.2021

                        • Added triangle windows to the window draw and edit menus for all wall types: rectangular, gable, shed and hip.
                        • Added the "Total Window Height" callout to the trapezoid window's section of the window draw and edit menus.

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su524_800.jpg

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su525_800.jpg

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su526_800.jpg

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su534_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 30 Apr 2021, 05:54

                          Version 2.0.6b - 04.29.2021

                          • Added triangle windows to the window draw and edit menus for all wall types: rectangular, gable, shed and hip.
                          • Added the "Total Window Height" callout to the trapezoid window's section of the window draw and edit menus.

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su524_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su525_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su526_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su523_800.jpg

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 30 Apr 2021, 23:52

                            Version 2.0.6c - 04.30.2021

                            • Fixed a critical bug with the shutter module.

                            ******* CRITICAL FIX *******
                            If you downloaded and installed Version 2.0.6b then you will want to immediately uninstall and download Version 2.0.6c. The previous version introduced a minor bug to the shutter module which will causes errors with any windows that have shutters. Installation of Version 2.0.6c is highly recommended.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 1 May 2021, 04:11

                              I am very excited with the solid progress made on the Wall plugin these last few weeks and months, especially with the recent addition of both trapezoid and triangular windows. In light of the recent progress and in hopes of allowing more users access to the features of the plugins I will be immediately offering 40% off of the mdkBIM bundle price using the coupon codeMOTHERSDAY21. (May 1, 2021 thru May 10, 2021).

                              This will reduce the bundle price from $170.00 USD to $102.00 USD. This promo code does not apply to any of the extensions purchased separately or to the electrical plugin. The offer ends on May 10th and no rain checks will issued thereafter.

                              http://design.medeek.com/ads/MOTHERSDAY21_BANNER_800.jpg

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 1 May 2021, 23:52

                                Version 2.0.7 - 05.01.2021

                                • Fixed a bug with the tee intersection gypsum cutout algorithm for shed walls.

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su527_800.jpg

                                A similar fix will probably be required for gable and hips walls but I haven't dug into that section of the code just yet.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 2 May 2021, 05:46

                                  Version 2.0.7b - 05.01.2021

                                  • Fixed a bug with the tee intersection gypsum cutout algorithm for gable and hip walls.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 3 May 2021, 21:51

                                    Here is an interesting framing situation. You have two internal walls that tee into a wall which has a pocket door that bisects the tee:

                                    https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/c/dc68eb13e7f0091900a65f5d36253a119f51a479.jpeg

                                    Overall no major problems the three walls can be configured correctly with "tee" intersections and the offset can be set to 1.75" for the two tee walls so that they meet properly at the top plate.

                                    The only issue is the that the gypsum backer studs are drawn full length and should be truncated at the header (hence the clash). The offending gypsum backer is colored red in the screenshot.

                                    The manual work around is to use the Trim Tool (Medeek Truss) and quickly trim the gypsum backers. I will have to examine this situation further and see if some additional logic can remedy this clash. This is not a huge deal breaker/ hot item in my opinion but it is a special framing case that needs a second look.

                                    The other obvious (simple) solution is to turn off the tee intersection backers in the global settings but this is really not a good option since it will disable the gypsum backers for all the walls in the model, not just this one.

                                    View model here:

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                                    3D Warehouse

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                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 4 May 2021, 04:46

                                      First look at "Pentagon" windows:

                                      https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/6/b/6bd497e09085ab60b6274b9a2244ed99c2c79751.jpeg

                                      Note that if one sets the window height to zero you can also achieve an isosceles or equilateral triangle window (the degenerate cases).

                                      Since I'm fresh on windows right now I thought that it might be the opportune time to add in the pentagon picture window as well, one less monkey on my back. The only other significant window missing is probably the quarter circle.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 4 May 2021, 16:36

                                        Pentagon window with "Perimeter" style grill:

                                        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/optimized/3X/f/3/f30fd874b1d23d5d273da5ff5336c9350284d5fd_2_690x396.jpeg

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 4 May 2021, 21:06

                                          First look at exterior trim with a Pentagon window:

                                          https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/1/5/15e5f9516ad9cf074bb0dab085c8aeb18bdd9c92.jpeg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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