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    • OxerO Offline
      Oxer
      last edited by

      Thanks for the plugin!!
      Here the Spanish Language file:

      FredoPortrait_ES.zip

      "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
      [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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      • JQLJ Offline
        JQL
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        @fredo6 said:

        @rv1974 said:

        Do you have plans to add a flatten (skp) generation from selected parts?

        That's my plan to produce FaceMe component, but not sure this is useful as I never saw a user request for that.

        Would a flat generation of Sketchup parts be easy to develop?

        That would be a tremendous thing for Layout.

        Layout doesn't handle complex Sketchup 3D models fast. But it's incredibly fast at 2D objects.

        If, somehow, your plugin could batch export a set of scenes for 2D skp files, and if those files would then be inserted in Layout, Layout would be a breeze to work in.

        To regenerate those 2D exports and layouts we would simply re-export a batch of the 2D skp files.

        I know it sounds convuluted, but it would be easy on a lot of aspects in Layout from dimensioning to rendering and even could help in some complex presentations too.

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        • fredo6F Offline
          fredo6
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          ...then, just use images, which FredoPortrait can generate.

          I don't see the value of going through 2D objects for Layout specifically (for Sketchup, this may increase performances, for instance for trees).

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          • JQLJ Offline
            JQL
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            Images cannot be exported to CAD (well they can, but they won't be valid to acquire dimensions from).

            However I don't really know if Sketchup would be faster to export the images, than Layout would be at regenerating them, so the trade off might not be worth the trouble.

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            • fredo6F Offline
              fredo6
              last edited by

              @jql said:

              Images cannot be exported to CAD

              What do you mean exactly ?

              FredoPortrait creates images with the specified resolution, that's all it does.

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              • OxerO Offline
                Oxer
                last edited by

                Hi Fredo,
                I uploaded the Spanish Language file 4 entries above.

                "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                • fredo6F Offline
                  fredo6
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                  @oxer said:

                  Hi Fredo,
                  I uploaded the Spanish Language file 4 entries above.

                  Thanks.

                  Will go in the next release.

                  fredo

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                  • JQLJ Offline
                    JQL
                    last edited by

                    @fredo6 said:

                    @rv1974 said:

                    Do you have plans to add a flatten (skp) generation from selected parts?

                    That's my plan to produce FaceMe component, but not sure this is useful as I never saw a user request for that.

                    I interpreted this as 2d vector images from a SketchUp model. I was thinking Fredo portrait would evolve to that.

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
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                      @jql said:

                      I interpreted this as 2d vector images from a SketchUp model. I was thinking Fredo portrait would evolve to that.

                      Unless I am wrong, this is what you get when you export as PDF (which is also supported by FredoPortrait)

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                      • A Offline
                        AnneliesB
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                        Fredo,
                        If I use fredo portrait to make an 2D component of a tree, SU PODIUM doesn’t render the tree properly. There are ‘squares’ around the leaves.
                        I am a beginner with sketchup and I use a laptop that sometimes gives me troubles with rendering 3D plants, because the file is too heavy and I run out of memory.
                        I saw about the Fredo Portrait plugin on youtube and thought this could be the answer...
                        Am I wrong?
                        Thanks for feedback!

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                        • fredo6F Offline
                          fredo6
                          last edited by

                          What happens if you render the model directly without using FredoPortrait?

                          Do you see the squares?

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                          • B Offline
                            BeePee
                            last edited by

                            I posted a question about close-cropped black 2d image export for laser cutting on another forum, and people recommended Fredo Portrait. To avoid repetition, here is the thread:

                            https://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=71692&p=653479#p653479

                            Is it possible to get what I need in SketchUp 2016, or do I have to update?

                            BTW Fredo, thanks for your brilliant plugins and patient, detailed, helpful explanations in text and video! It must take so much time and care; really impressive, and an example to all other plugin creators. I've donated in the past and will do again if you can give me what I'm after in this instance for my laser cutting. It will save so much hassle!

                            BeePee

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              The Generation of 2D components requires SU2018 and above. So not possible with SU2016...

                              In your case where you just need a PNG or JPG image of your component, you should use the generation of image, which does work with SU2016. Just make sure to configure the view to "from Top" and select transparent background. The image should be exactly adjusted to the size of the component in the vertical direction (if you need to crop horizontally, just do it in an image editor).

                              Possibly, you may want to post or PM me your model so that I have a look.

                              Fredo

                              PS: You should really upgrade to SU2017 unless you have a 32-bits Windows. SU2016 suffers from a number of problems related to high-resolution screens, which are nicely solved as of SU2017.

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                              • B Offline
                                BeePee
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                                Thanks for your reply Fredo. It turns out that my Sketchup Make version is 2017: 17.2.2555. I tried to update to a newer version (2019?) by clicking the Help tab and 'Check for Update'. It says "You currently have the latest version of Sketchup".

                                I'm confused. Sorry to ask what I assume is such a basic question, but how do I get the 2019 version so I can use the extra features of your plugin?

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
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                                  @beepee said:

                                  Thanks for your reply Fredo. It turns out that my Sketchup Make version is 2017: 17.2.2555. I tried to update to a newer version (2019?) by clicking the Help tab and 'Check for Update'. It says "You currently have the latest version of Sketchup".

                                  I'm confused. Sorry to ask what I assume is such a basic question, but how do I get the 2019 version so I can use the extra features of your plugin?

                                  Check for update only looks for the latest revision of the current version. For hobbyist use, you have the latest version of SketchUp Make that exists.

                                  To get SketchUp 2019, go to https://www.sketchup.com/plans-and-pricing/sketchup-pro

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    @beepee said:

                                    Thanks for your reply Fredo. It turns out that my Sketchup Make version is 2017: 17.2.2555. I tried to update to a newer version (2019?) by clicking the Help tab and 'Check for Update'. It says "You currently have the latest version of Sketchup".

                                    I'm confused. Sorry to ask what I assume is such a basic question, but how do I get the 2019 version so I can use the extra features of your plugin?

                                    Anyway, for what you need, SU2017 should be OK as you do not need to generate a 2D component.

                                    Could you post or PM your model so that I check how to solve your issue.

                                    Fredo

                                    PS: SU2018 and SU2019 are only Pro, and therefore paid versions of SketchUp. So upgrading is a matter of money.

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                                    • B Offline
                                      BeePee
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for your replies Dave and Fredo. Hmm, I'd just discovered that from an internet search for "Download Sketchup Make 2019"...

                                      I hadn't realised - that's a big change in Trimble's business model! I read that lots of people are unhappy with the new online version Sketchup Free, because it's obviously not as good as Make without the extensions. I'm not impressed either, for that reason. I guess I'll just stick with 2017 Make for now, because the jump to Pro is pretty costly!

                                      I'm surprised the powers that be didn't continue Sketchup Make as a lower priced in-between option between Pro and Free, as I'm sure many Make users would be willing to pay a reasonable amount (maybe $50PA?) for continuing to use it with new versions. Do you think they might consider this option in future?

                                      Anyway... Getting back to the topic in hand.

                                      I use Sketchup in a different way to most. I use each Model file as a design bed for an ever increasing number of iterations of related novel harmonica parts, which I either 3d print or lasercut. Many models have thousands of parts created over the years, each one discrete and lying over a plane. There is no point in sending you the whole file, but I attach a snapshot of one. You can see a mix of related parts, mostly ones for 3D printing, but also the black 2d ones which are for lasercutting. These are the ones I'd love to export cropped to a rectangle which fits them exactly - just as they appear when highlighted in blue as grouped objects.

                                      Exporting them with ANY extra width (white or transparent) means I can't resize them with correct domensions in the lasercutter sofware. That makes me doubt the PNG option will work because, even if I can't see the extra background, it will be there.

                                      Over to you, thanks for your help.


                                      Sample Model.skp

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        @beepee said:

                                        Thanks for your replies Dave and Fredo. Hmm, I'd just discovered that from an internet search for "Download Sketchup Make 2019"...

                                        I hadn't realised - that's a big change in Trimble's business model! I read that lots of people are unhappy with the new online version Sketchup Free, because it's obviously not as good as Make without the extensions.

                                        There are a number of reasons why they began development of the online version. It's still early days with it yet. Due to the the way the software is implemented, it currently isn't possible to add extensions. The vast majority of SketchUp users, even with the desktop Make versions actually don't use extensions at all.

                                        @beepee said:

                                        I guess I'll just stick with 2017 Make for now...

                                        I had a look at your website. You have some interesting harmonica stuff, there. Considering you are using SketchUp for your business, you need to have a Pro license. SketchUp make is not licensed for commercial use.

                                        @beepee said:

                                        I'm surprised the powers that be didn't continue Sketchup Make as a lower priced in-between option between Pro and Free, as I'm sure many Make users would be willing to pay a reasonable amount (maybe $50PA?) for continuing to use it with new versions. Do you think they might consider this option in future?

                                        The alternative they offer now is called SketchUp Shop. It has more capabilities than SketchUp Free and provides a license for commercial work. It's extremely unlikely that they will go back to development of Make.

                                        @beepee said:

                                        I use Sketchup in a different way to most. I use each Model file as a design bed for an ever increasing number of iterations of related novel harmonica parts, which I either 3d print or lasercut. Many models have thousands of parts created over the years, each one discrete and lying over a plane. There is no point in sending you the whole file, but I attach a snapshot of one. You can see a mix of related parts, mostly ones for 3D printing, but also the black 2d ones which are for lasercutting. These are the ones I'd love to export cropped to a rectangle which fits them exactly - just as they appear when highlighted in blue as grouped objects.

                                        Exporting them with ANY extra width (white or transparent) means I can't resize them with correct domensions in the lasercutter sofware. That makes me doubt the PNG option will work because, even if I can't see the extra background, it will be there.

                                        Over to you, thanks for your help.

                                        As before, you need to be using SketchUp Pro for the license. In addition, it would give you some options that you don't have with Make such as the ability to utilize LayOut to assist in the creation and exporting of your images.

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                                        • fredo6F Offline
                                          fredo6
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                                          @beepee said:

                                          Exporting them with ANY extra width (white or transparent) means I can't resize them with correct domensions in the lasercutter sofware. That makes me doubt the PNG option will work because, even if I can't see the extra background, it will be there.

                                          Why don't you invest in a free or cheap image editor where you can crop images and perform other changes much more easily than in Sketchup...?

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
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                                            It's not my argument. Read the terms of use for SketchUp Make and Pro. You are using SketchUp Make commercially and are violating the agreement. You need to have a license that allows it.

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