Twinmotion 2018 with Unreal engine :)
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WOW! now thats a match made in heaven!!!
Wonder how they managed the licensing with unreal - given the fact that unreal is free for arch viz use??? or is it? i am confused! -
looks way better than ugly lumion.
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Doubt that will be free!
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Oh man!! I'm so excited.
Wish I was part of the beta team, this is a game changer.
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In the video there is a distinct difference between the first clips by known Unreal viz artists and the later in app graphics.
They don't match so I'm wondering if it will be as good as everyone hopes? A bit sceptical. -
Pixero,
Indeed there is a difference, and it's mainly in the way the light behaves. II was really interested in Unreal engine, a while ago, looking at theses videos (vineyard challenge from ronen bekerman), but I discovered, while trying it, that the really good-filming-look came from a complex system of baked lighting. If you want to achieve the photoralistic result shown in the first part of the video, you have to carefully build your model, unwrap many things, check the way your objects are construct, and then wait quite a long time for the baking to be done. Then, you often have to go back and restart if some of the lightmap is not perfect.
So, to my opinion, on the second part of the video, which is realtime inside Twinmotion, they seems let aside this lightmap system, to be fully realtime. My guess is that it's much more simple to use that way (but a quite inferior in term of photoreal look). Actually, the pseudo GI in realtime (I think it's something called lightmass in unreal), give rather good results, with a nice color bleeding.
Let's hope we'll be able to test it soon !
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I also noticed that, I was thinking more that the beginning part was to show the power of then Unreal engine as those images look like pure Unreal, and the latter ones are the Twinmotion with Unreal engine images. Another thing is they are probably in a closed beta with tech guys and maybe a few architects but no real artists, once it gets released the quality of images with improve as the creative folks get their hands on it.
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Very hollywood presentation with some clever material usage. In the right hands this is a fabulous tool.
Time the boffins at the Hadron Collider made its computational power available to general public as a render farm. You'll need some grunt to run this bad boy.
I had it before Abvent bought them up and it was really easy to use just lacking entourage.
The camera animation was sublime to use.
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@unknownuser said:
pour le moment nous avons pris tout le côté temps réel, donc vous n'aurez pas encore la qualité que l'on peut atteindre avec les lightmass, c'était beaucoup trop couteux en ram et surtout extrêmement long à générer.
On a pour le moment fait ce compromis, sinon pour le reste on a tout dont les lpv pour simuler une global illumination en temps réel.For the moment we have taken all the real time side, so you will not yet have the quality that can be reached with the lightmass, it was far too expensive in ram and especially extremely long to generate.
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They've added a couple of new videos (concerning Archicad and Revit, not yet sketchup...)
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Their latest video, showing the new full mac support.
The overall rendering quality shown is this video is way more impressive than in the previous teaser... Unreal engine really is efficient !
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It's a shame that they don't allow for the lightmass as an advanced option, maybe even with a warning about the UV unwrapping it requires.
The output from lightmass is very close to ray tracers and would knock out anything else.
Having said that, even if having less visual quality than raytracing rendereres, solutions like Twinmotion and Lumion, still have incredible value considering animation and amount of consistent content you can import directly.
What I see about Twinmotion, even 2018 is that some of this content seems a bit poor. Lumion has axis people, for instance and while they still are not as good as the highpoly versions they are much better looking than the ones we see at Twinmotion. With nature and even weather effects there's something fake on what I've seen that I really don't like and that Unreal Engine will not solve.
I would love to know if we can import content from UE independently. I believe it could be possible and that might change things in the long run.
Taking models out and creating simpler rendering more focused on model's geometry, materials and lighting, would probably be my first choice anyway so I would fell UE and lightmass would be incredible to have.
I wonder if they will expand their material system to allow for more maps to be used as currently, for what I've seen you can only have diffuse, alpha and bumpmap. The metallic Roughness PBR workflow would be amazing to have in Twinmotion and if they would have direct support for Substance's .sbsar files, they would sell it to me immediatelly.
Materials like this work incredibly in any render engine, realtime or not:
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Their latest video. The interface seems really smooth.
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I'm very curious about this Twinmotion release with Unreal engine integration.
I guess you cannot enlighten us about some details but I'd like to know if:
- Substance Materials with parameter configuration will be supported;
- Or PBR metallic maps will be supported (base color, normal, roughness, metallic, clipping, emissive, thickness, etc...);
- Displacement or parallax occlusion will be supported;
- People models will get realistic...
Thanks!
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@jql said:
- Substance Materials with parameter configuration will be supported;
- Or PBR metallic maps will be supported (base color, normal, roughness, metallic, clipping, emissive, thickness, etc...);
- Displacement or parallax occlusion will be supported;
- People models will get realistic...
No to Substance material support
Yes to PBR maps but not all
Yes to parallax occlusion
What's most impressive is how fast the viewport remains. Even when stacked with items.
But SKP import is still flaky and needs lots of work to make it better integrated.
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Rich, are you on the beta team?
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@solo said:
Rich, are you on the beta team?
Yeah, I got access yesterday via invite. I'll see if they need more SU Pros to weigh in on the testing.
So far if you use the packaged assets it remains super fast to use.
When you try to import external assets it begins to stutter.
Could be the format I'm importing though. Need to do more tests.
But it also suffers from creating 100s of textures if faces are ngons in SU.
I submitted some bugs let's see if it fixes it.
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