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    • robintR Offline
      robint
      last edited by

      Hi Anton

      Installed your script, works a treat and pretty accurate 😎

      However I have meddled and got stuck, I cant find a way to print another result on a new line, tried everything, puts, print (can't find sprintf in docs either)

      As you see I want to print elapsed time as well and it works but overwrite the Max Speed result on the same line

      I feel really dumb getting stuck on this trivial matter, pls help 😒

      BTW would I be right in saying that MSP script is a subset of official Ruby 2.0 and some elements like puts and print (they dont do anything on screen or riase an error)are left out?

      Cheers

      Robin


      falling block3.skp

      As one door closes another one slams in your face

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        Anton_S
        last edited by

        Here:

        onStart {
          @max_vz = 0
        }
        
        onUpdate {
          v = this.get_velocity
          if v.z.abs > @max_vz
            @max_vz = v.z.abs
            simulation.display_note(sprintf("Max Speed %.3f m/s\nElapsed Time; %.2f s", @max_vz, world.time))
          end
        }
        
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        • robintR Offline
          robint
          last edited by

          Anton, ooh that is nice

          from little acorns, great oaks grow

          So now we have a timer as well

          Maybe add

          add the x.y.z distance travelled

          and then I can perhaps simulate a cannon firing a cannon ball at a target

          and with a bit of wind and air friction, elementary gunnery for the Napoleonic War

          I will of course present my models to you for the consideration of others in the interest of MSP

          Cheers, many thanks
          Robin


          falling block4.skp

          As one door closes another one slams in your face

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          • robintR Offline
            robint
            last edited by

            Hi Anton

            Just seen your Turret thingy, blown away by it
            30 pages of code - I might as well try and become a brain surgeon!

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            3D Warehouse

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            Very skilful

            Robin

            As one door closes another one slams in your face

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            • gillesG Offline
              gilles
              last edited by

              Just playing with basics,
              Screw-MSP.gif
              brought me to some questions:

              When you at the screws,
              -one is static mesh and is collision shape fits perfectly.

              • to achieve the same collision shape for the mobil oneI had to it with several components.

              Any reason the soft isn't able to calculate the same collision shape but not static?

              To make those movements running well I used a workaround.

              For rotation we have hinge, motor, servo.
              For translation we have slider, piston, why not a linear motor?
              For translation + rotation we have corkscrew, why not motor + linear motor , servo + piston, servo + linear motor , linear motor + piston?
              For curve we have curvy slider and curvy piston, why not a curvy motor and curvy piston?

              Nota bene: just curiosity here, no request.


              Vis MSPhysic.skp

              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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              • robintR Offline
                robint
                last edited by

                At last

                Terminal velocity
                Time
                Distance

                Now the basis of my cannon project

                Anton has made a sophisticated urret thingy available on 3D warehouse/msphysics

                but I want to make a simpler model for a gunner with inputs for
                horiz angle
                Azimuth
                muzzle velocity
                Range (from a range finder measurement of a distant target placed at random)
                Air density (from Bar pres, RH and temp)
                Air friction ?

                output > distance landed from target (eg a forward spotter)

                Simplistic stuff for a Napoleonic gunnery officer

                Maybe a moving target next (eg tank)

                On the 7th day god made Robin


                falling block6.skp

                As one door closes another one slams in your face

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                  faust07
                  last edited by

                  Hi Anton, after extensive tests with the fairly complex ice stage model, I can report that everything works very well.
                  I just had to reverse some curves and exchange the programmed Curvy Piston Joint for the Orca. The calculation of the transformed emitter objects seems to work more precisely.
                  This costs a little more time for the simulation, but the viewport problems no longer occur.
                  That's great! Thank you very much!
                  I have extended the simulation around a rain with middle large hailstones and it works.
                  And for the future the integration of the good old SketchyPhysics fracture/split function and a kind of soft or flexible surfaces would be great...
                  πŸ‘


                  NewYear-Test_07.gif


                  frame_000196.jpg

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                  • A Offline
                    Anton_S
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for testing and verifying, Faust. Next feature would be to improve performance of export to Skindigo and Kerkythea. I think there is a way to reduce export redundancy. The fracture thingy would be implemented too.

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                    • F Offline
                      faust07
                      last edited by

                      Sounds good!

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                      • F Offline
                        faust07
                        last edited by

                        Testing MSPhysics in SketchUp 2017.
                        In a direct comparison between SketchUp Make 2016 and 2017, this incomplete image is created in 2017 when using the following script:

                        Sketchup.active_model.active_view.write_image("e;/MSPh_Temp/frame_%06d.png" % frame,1600,900,true,1.0)
                        

                        How should it be right for SUp 2017?


                        result in SUp 2016


                        result in SUp 2017

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                          ZoltanSpin
                          last edited by

                          (learning Ruby for MSphysics)
                          I would like to move several objects, each one following an (x,y,z) curve, in a synchronous manner.
                          I imagined to have a public tick and then on tick each body compute its next (x,y,z) position and goes there using set_velocity([vx,vy,vz]).

                          • is this a correct way to use MSphysics scripts? Are there (close) examples in warehouse?
                          • how to write if for, say, a cube moving at 1m/s from x=0 to x=100m then when x=100 --> x=0 and loop?
                            Thank you for your help.
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                            Anton_S
                            last edited by

                            Hello, Zoltan,

                            Yes, you understood the concept correctly.

                            For such behavior, however, a script might not be necessary. You can use a Piston or a CurvyPiston joint. When you add a Piston joint, set its position units to m, linear rate to like, 1000, and the controller to, world.time % 10. This will generate a value b/w 0 and 10 on a timescale of 10 seconds.

                            Also, in case you don't know how to use joints, here is a Wiki:
                            https://github.com/AntonSynytsia/MSPhysics/wiki/Using-Joints

                            But if you want a special behavior that would teleport a moving object after it surpasses a scalar of a coordinate, then this is how you do it:

                            onStart {
                              @max_x = 100.m
                              @start_pos = this.get_position(1)
                            }
                            
                            onUpdate {
                              this.set_velocity(1,0,0)
                              if this.get_position(1).x > @max_x
                                this.set_position(@start_pos)
                              end
                            }
                            

                            Paste this script into the desired moving object(s).

                            Basically, this will move an object at 1 m/s along the x-axis and teleport it back to start when the objects X coordinate surpasses maximum x position.

                            You can also, instead, control it by force rather than velocity:

                            onStart {
                              @max_x = 100.m # in inches; the .m converts it meters to inches.
                              @start_pos = this.get_position(1)
                              @des_vel_x = 1 # in m/s
                            }
                            
                            onUpdate {
                              # Compute the desired acceleration in m/s/s -> (des_vel - cur_vel) / timestep
                              ax = (@des_vel_x - this.get_velocity.x) / simulation.update_timestep
                              # Apply force
                              this.add_force(ax * this.mass, 0, 0)
                              # Teleport if necessart
                              if this.get_position(1).x > @max_x
                                this.set_position(@start_pos)
                              end
                            }
                            

                            Applying forces are better than applying velocities because they don't dissipate any other forces like the force of gravity or the force of contacts. Also, if you don't want to have the object be affected by the gravity, you can, as well, add force to the z component, like 9.801 * this.mass or you can simply disable gravity for the object. Both yield the same behavior.

                            But, like I said, to if you want to create moving platform that doesn't involve teleportation, you can add a Piston joint and connect it to the desired object. Then add an oscillator controller to the Piston joint, like oscillator(50)*100.

                            Regards,
                            Anton

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                              DingBEN
                              last edited by

                              I created a floor (static mesh), and a ball and a cube both compounds
                              I tilted the floor (5)
                              ...Friction ON

                              Play:

                              • Ball rolls to the edge of the floor and stops! ?
                              • Cube does not even move

                              ...Friction OFF

                              • both roll/slide off the floor and disappear in the abyss

                              I wait for 10 15 secs,

                              • the floor's front face disappears so the inside of the floor can be seen,
                              • and from that face the floor melts away until it reaches the back right corner
                              • then it melts from the back right corner to the left one and vanishes!

                              Also if using any SketchUp commands, for example, to realign the scene
                              then the behavior of objects and mouse pointing and other function go to the abyss of absurdity

                              Hope this is helpful.

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                              • F Offline
                                faust07
                                last edited by

                                Hi DingBEN,
                                I guess the ball stops at the edge because its shape is defined as "Compound".
                                You could test is with a collision shape "Sphere".
                                When in MSPhysics objects fall down into infinity, they gradually enlarge the overall model.
                                They are falling too far away from the camera.
                                And the "clipping" problem known in SketchUp is getting stronger until all objects are optically cut off in the field of view of the camera.
                                You can read a bit more about the "clipping" issue here:
                                http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/ ... swer=36261

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                                  chad3006
                                  last edited by

                                  I posted this same question at the MSPhysics Github. I'm very new to MSPhysics and not very smart either, so I was wondering if anyone has attempted a simulated wind-tunnel or something like that using MSPhysics? Is such a thing even possible at the moment? If so could you share?

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                                    Anton_S
                                    last edited by

                                    Wind tests are not possible with MSPhysics. I once came across a plugin dealing with fluid analysis but can't recall the name of it.

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                                      faust07
                                      last edited by

                                      Here the first small test example MSPhysics v1.0.0 with scripted emitters.
                                      Unfortunately, SketchUp crashes completely after a few seconds.
                                      In MSPhysics v1.0.0 WIP7 there was no problem with this.
                                      Thanks in advance.
                                      Edit: Fixed in high Speed - now it works - thanks to Anton! πŸ‘


                                      Rain-Test_SUp17-MSP100_01.skp

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                                      • ecatiE Offline
                                        ecati
                                        last edited by

                                        To ensure smooth movement, how should the green piece connect to the blue piece?


                                        soru.jpg


                                        soru.skp

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                                          Anton_S
                                          last edited by

                                          The green piece can be grouped with the blue pieces: ungroup both of the blue pieces, hold CTRL, select the green piece, and regroup them all together.

                                          For improvements you can change the collision of the yellow wheels to Cylinder shape. Also, set the solver model to iterative 16 passes and material thickness to zero.

                                          The only way you will achieve a smooth ride is by relying on the CurvySlider joints and having the entire track set be ignored; relying on contacts will rarely show you good results. Here I attached your model with two CurvySlider joints lining the entire track. I also used Fredo6's Curvyvizard (http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=415495#p415495) to smooth the curvy at certain, rough locations.
                                          soru.skp

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                                            faust07
                                            last edited by

                                            Comparison between V0.9.9 and V1.0.1(V1.0.2)

                                            Have the following problems:

                                            • the deep impact of small scripted emitters on heavy bodies.
                                            • strong reflection of that emitted objects (non collision) on a Buoyancy Plane.
                                            • continuous OnTouch events of object with a plane for "waves" and "splashes" don't work anymore.

                                            Here are two files, on for SkechUp 2016 with MSPhysics v0.9.9 witch worked well and the other for SketchUp 2017 with MSPhysics v1.0.1 for witch I need help.
                                            For the parallel tests I hade to install MSP v0.9.9 on SUp 2016 - sorry!
                                            The GIF of V0.9.9 shows what I want to achieve.
                                            Thanks in advance!


                                            OnTouch-Test_05_099.gif


                                            OnTouch-Test_01_MSP0.9.9_SUp2016.skp


                                            OnTouch-Test_05_101.gif


                                            OnTouch-Test_01_MSP1.0.1_SUp2017.skp

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