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    solo
    last edited by 16 Apr 2016, 16:44

    I am looking for a plugin that I know does not exist, I need to drape, position ropes and wires around obstacles. Right now it's a painfully slow process using current tools.

    Here is something close to what I'd love. (turn down the volume and see around 40 seconds what I mean)

    Thoughts?

    http://www.solos-art.com

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      tuna1957
      last edited by 16 Apr 2016, 16:56

      I'll second solo on this. would cheerfully pay $$

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      • S Offline
        solo
        last edited by 16 Apr 2016, 17:18

        @pixero said:

        Isn't there a script called catenary curve or something?
        I believe it was made for hanging wires or such.
        Might be useful.

        Edit: I found this: https://extensions.sketchup.com/nl/content/wire-tool

        I have that, it just hangs wires, I need it to go around poles, walls, off ledges etc.

        http://www.solos-art.com

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          Pixero
          last edited by 16 Apr 2016, 17:18

          Isn't there a script called catenary curve or something?
          I believe it was made for hanging wires or such.
          Might be useful.

          Edit: I found this: https://extensions.sketchup.com/nl/content/wire-tool

          What would be really cool is a spline FFD that could deform geometry in realtime

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            pilou
            last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 22:20

            Helix along curve ?

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              baz
              last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 03:20

              @tuna1957 said:

              I'll second solo on this. would cheerfully pay $$

              Yep, me too.

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              • K Offline
                KENTUCKY
                last edited by 20 Apr 2016, 16:45

                I was asked to help on a ropes course project a while back. I was trying for a 3 strand rope. I never did come up with a good method and they ultimately just used sketchup line work for their illustrations.
                I felt like I was getting close to a good workflow a few times.

                I think Helix around curve could be modified create multiple helix and then a line to tube ruby could be used. The problem I had was easily creating multiple helix for multiple strands that worked correctly with the diameter of the rope. The helix has to be adjusted based on the diameter of the rope

                I think I attached my test file? I tried anyway.
                Hope that helps someone.


                rope test

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                  pilou
                  last edited by 20 Apr 2016, 17:06

                  @unknownuser said:

                  The helix has to be adjusted based on the diameter of the rope

                  Like in reality! πŸ€“

                  File works fine!
                  (next time save "as V6" for a more large audience! πŸ˜‰
                  ropes.jpg

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                    Bob James
                    last edited by 21 Apr 2016, 18:08

                    @kentucky said:

                    I attached a screen shot of a very quick try.

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                      solo
                      last edited by 21 Apr 2016, 19:00

                      @kentucky said:

                      Would it be possible to use a slightly modified version of the ivy plugin for wrapping rope around an object? You can get a single strand by playing with the parameters.
                      I attached a screen shot of a very quick try.

                      You forgot the screenshot.

                      Ivy idea sounds good, maybe a little lack of control but still better than nothing.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

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                        KENTUCKY
                        last edited by 21 Apr 2016, 20:19

                        Would it be possible to use a slightly modified version of the ivy plugin for wrapping rope around an object? You can get a single strand by playing with the parameters.
                        I attached a screen shot of a very quick try.

                        IvyRope.jpg

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                          faust07
                          last edited by 22 Apr 2016, 11:06

                          This could be a solution: LSS Arch 1.5.9. Demo https://youtu.be/5e6SXCSwQg0

                          • the second half of the video.
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                            JQL
                            last edited by 22 Apr 2016, 11:58

                            Damn! That's an impressive plugin! Will try ASAP!

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                              cotty
                              last edited by 23 Apr 2016, 12:28

                              Maybe this plugin can be a start?
                              http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=80%26amp;t=64302#p589620

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                                Pixero
                                last edited by 23 Apr 2016, 17:52

                                @faust07 said:

                                This could be a solution: LSS Arch 1.5.9. Demo https://youtu.be/5e6SXCSwQg0

                                • the second half of the video.

                                What! I never heard of this plugin. Looks fantastic! 😎

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                                  Pixero
                                  last edited by 24 Apr 2016, 14:50

                                  Here is perhaps a solution:
                                  http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=80%26amp;t=64796
                                  http://www.sketchrope.com/

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                                    nektares
                                    last edited by 29 Apr 2016, 00:10

                                    Maybe this, on first step just draw a rough aproximation of where you want the rope to go.
                                    on step two adjust it and then convert it with bz toolbar to catmull spline
                                    and then the final step just tube along path or follow me along the generated catmull spline.

                                    rope

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                                      AcesHigh
                                      last edited by 3 May 2016, 14:09

                                      Nektares, this seems quite complicated for more complex geometry, like the part where the rope goes around that tube. And it may not end up realistic. A more complex scene with a rope might be too complicated for this method to work.

                                      @Solo: aside Ropefall, which is subscription based, have you thought of using some BLENDER? Export model to Blender, do the rope, re-import rope to Sketchup?

                                      Not the best workflow, but maybe better than pay a subscription plugin, specially if you do not need ALL THE TIME to work with complex ropes.

                                      here, a tutorial on ropes in Blender. With the added benefit of already creating realistic ropes with the strands twisting, etc

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                                        juju
                                        last edited by 3 May 2016, 14:48

                                        @aceshigh said:

                                        aside Ropefall, which is subscription based

                                        the plugin author has since changed to optional perpetual licence...

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                                          baz
                                          last edited by 4 May 2016, 11:00

                                          @nektares said:

                                          Maybe this, on first step just draw a rough aproximation of where you want the rope to go.
                                          on step two adjust it and then convert it with bz toolbar to catmull spline
                                          and then the final step just tube along path or follow me along the generated catmull spline.

                                          [attachment=0:18pbu3s6]<!-- ia0 -->rope_test1.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:18pbu3s6]

                                          That's a goer for me, I hadn't realized that BZ could convert straight lines. For my needs that works plenty good.
                                          Thanks.

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