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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 31 Mar 2016, 07:17

    Six possible end details for a flat truss (Pratt 4 panels), there are probably others but these seem to be the most common:

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su105_800.jpg

    1.) Mansard w/ Parapet
    2.) Parapet
    3.) Mansard
    4.) Overhang
    5.) Cantilever
    6.) None

    Both Mansard configurations can also have an optional overhang as shown. The Parapet configuration should allow for customizing the thickness of the parapet wall.

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    This truss type with its many end configurations would work well with an HTML UI, that is the direction I will be going with future user inputs and interfaces since the ability to customize is unlimited.

    With the flat trusses I will initially offer both Howe and Pratt with the ability to utilize a low slope or zero slope.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 1 Apr 2016, 17:14

      Version 1.4.8 - 04.01.2016

      • Added Mod Fan common truss type.
      • Structural outlookers (vert. & horz.) enabled under advanced roof options for Common (Mod Fan) truss type.

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su106_800.jpg

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      With the addition of the Mod Fan (Triple Fan) the line up of common trusses is complete. I still need to add in raised heels and structural outlookers for some of the configurations.

      Theoretically I could add in additional configurations of the Fink and Howe truss types for extremely large roofs but the largest I've ever seen is a raised heel Quad Fink (10/9). Large spans beyond 70'-80' are probably not practical as far as a single span common truss roof. At that point you pretty much go with large flat roofs with interior columns and girders and all steel construction (think Walmart or Cosco).

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
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      • M Offline
        medeek
        last edited by 3 Apr 2016, 06:56

        Tray truss algorithm:

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/truss/GEOMETRY/TRAY1_800.jpg

        A more complex algorithm would be required for a non-centered tray.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          medeek
          last edited by 4 Apr 2016, 07:54

          Tray Trusses working now I just need to enable gable ends and advanced options:

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su107_800.jpg

          Note the three large trusses are all 36' span with different tray widths and different web triangulations.

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            medeek
            last edited by 4 Apr 2016, 19:04

            More configurations:

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su108_800.jpg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 5 Apr 2016, 05:24

              Version 1.4.9 - 04.04.2016

              • Added Tray truss type, configurations: (AUTO).
              • Metric input enabled for tray truss type.
              • Added gable end trusses for tray truss type.

              The next truss type I would like to add is the coffer truss but I don't have a lot of good examples or shop drawings of this truss type. Any examples of a coffer truss would be most welcome.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
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                medeek
                last edited by 11 Apr 2016, 15:16

                Version 1.5.0 - 04.11.2016

                • Added Mono Scissor truss type, configurations: (2/2, 3/3).
                • Metric input enabled for mono scissor truss type.
                • Added gable end trusses for mono scissor truss type.
                • Structural outlookers (vert. & horz.) enabled under advanced roof options for Mono Scissor (2/2, 3/3) truss types.

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su110_800.jpg

                When the raised heel option is selected the pitch of the bottom chord may equal the top chord creating a half vaulted parallel chord truss.

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                Raised heels are also enabled for this truss type, the combination of structural outlookers (vert & horz.) with the raised heel (wedge, slider, vert) makes for some interesting combinations and for some challenging logic/programming in order to get it all right.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
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                  medeek
                  last edited by 14 Apr 2016, 05:55

                  Updating the hip roof module so that an appropriate wireframe is displayed while using the roof positioning tool:

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su111_800.jpg

                  I will roll a revision once I've finished updating all of the rafter roof types with updated wireframes (preview graphics).

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
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                    juju
                    last edited by 14 Apr 2016, 07:13

                    thanks!

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 07:12

                      Version 1.5.1 - 04.16.2016

                      • Added Dutch Gable Rafter Roof (all advanced options enabled).
                      • Added wireframe (temporary) graphics to the roof positioning tool for rafter roofs.

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su112_800.jpg

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                      I still need to setup ceiling joists for hip and dutch gable roofs.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 17 Apr 2016, 19:52

                        A nested dutch gable roof created with the plugin. The roof is initially generated by creating three dutch gable primitives and then deleting and trimming certain elements. The most time consuming is the creation of the two valley rafters. I think it might be helpful to have some sort of valley rafter tool if I can figure out a good way of doing that.

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su113_800.jpg

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                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
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                          medeek
                          last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 04:43

                          Looking at the half hip roof next. Fairly cut and dried but I'm a little undecided how to handle the birdsmouths cut of the hip rafter where it intersects the discontinuity of the gable wall. I will probably use the same birdsmouth cut on the half hip rafters as the other common rafters of the roof.

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su114_800.jpg

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                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 08:58

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 20:12

                              Per user request:

                              Version 1.5.2 - 04.18.2016

                              • Added energy/raised heels for small span attic trusses (less than 24 ft.), 1 variant: vertical w/ strut.
                              • Added some additional logic to improve the triangulation of the upper attic of attic trusses.

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su115_800.jpg

                              When I get some more time I will add in slider and wedge raised heel options for the attic truss type but at that moment it is low priority since most users seem to favor a fairly tall raised heel when utilizing it with attic trusses.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 19 Apr 2016, 15:53

                                I have been giving some thought to dormers and how to specify them. Below is a dormer design I framed in Solidworks a few years back for a garage design:

                                http://design.medeek.com/images/MISC/GARAGE4828-A6D-3_DORMER1.jpg

                                http://design.medeek.com/images/slideshow/GARAGE4828-A6D-3_FRAMING5_1024.jpg

                                Of course the numerous ways in which one could frame a dormer is probably beyond the scope of this discussion but I would like to consider what geometry needs to be determined in order to orient and size the dormer.

                                After some thought I think the following points, planes and lengths would define the geometry of a typical dormer:

                                1.) Main Roof Plane
                                2.) Attic Floor Plane
                                3.) Offset from exterior wall below (how far the dormer is out of plane from the ext. wall below).
                                4.) Pitch of Dormer roof
                                5.) Dormer width
                                6.) Dormer height (distance from attic floor plane to top plate of dormer wall)
                                7.) Window width, height, and header depth
                                8.) Dormer wall thickness (2x4 or 2x6)
                                9.) Dormer rafter depth
                                10.) Position of Dormer along length of building

                                Items 2,3 and 10 can be combined into a single point selection.

                                Revisiting this I think the location of the dormer can be established with the selection of two points and a plane (main roof plane), the rest of the parameters will be UI.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 21 Apr 2016, 07:47

                                  Version 1.5.3 - 04.20.2016

                                  • Added Mono Cathedral truss type, configurations: (2/2, 4/4).
                                  • Metric input enabled for mono cathedral truss type.
                                  • Added gable end trusses for mono cathedral truss type.
                                  • Structural outlookers (vert. & horz.) enabled under advanced roof options for Mono Cathedral (2/2, 4/4) truss types.
                                  • Added Mono Scissor truss type, configuration: (4/4).

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su116_800.jpg

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                                  I manually modeled this truss type about two months ago and I have been meaning to add it in, finally got it done tonight.

                                  Manually created model here:

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                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
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                                    juju
                                    last edited by 21 Apr 2016, 08:21

                                    @juju said:

                                    how's the manual coming along?

                                    ?

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 22 Apr 2016, 04:07

                                      The plugin is in such a state of flux it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to invest a lot of time into the manual until things stabilize a bit more. The section I originally wrote now needs a complete rewrite.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 22 Apr 2016, 04:21

                                        Version 1.5.4 - 04.21.2016

                                        • Added a graphical user interface (GUI) for the selection of the truss type in the "Draw Roof Truss" sub-menu.
                                        • GUI can be toggled with previous drop down menu within global settings.

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su118_800.jpg

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su117_800.jpg

                                        As you can see there is only one global setting at the moment but now that I have the interface and back end properly setup it won't take much to add in a number of other global values. At some point I will probably have enough parameters that I will need to enable some sort of tabbed html front end for the global setting menu.

                                        With html web dialog boxes I am not sure how well they work on a Mac, the whole sync vs. async issue is a real problem for web dialogs and Macs. I only test on a PC so I can't guarantee 100% compatibility on a Mac. So far I haven't had too many complaints.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 22 Apr 2016, 19:02

                                          I will probably add in the Barrel Vault and Clerestory truss types sometime next week as time allows however after that I don't really have any specific truss types that need to be added unless someone has one they would like to see added. I guess I'm starting to run out of trusses... never thought I would see that day.

                                          The next area that will probably get some focus is the various hip truss sets. I'm also looking at the dormer module as and a related plugin for wall framing.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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