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  • B Offline
    baz
    last edited by 28 Sept 2015, 12:50

    how does this stuff work?

    i have 170+gst debited from my account

    i have my receipt and new serial and auth code

    (this is after about 8 mails to my new aussie provider, come back kevin!)

    my new provider tells me to dl my latest su.

    i open su, same as old.. with no option to input new licence info

    The question is.....................
    How do I apply my support/maintenance/sub/whatever to my SU. How do I see where I am at with the yearly sub. and 30 days late means another fine! and im finding the whole thing a bit stressful.

    Rant over...

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    • J Offline
      juju
      last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 11:19

      yeah, I hear you, I got my love-letter reminding me that my maintenance & support will be expiring soon, so soon that it is 8 almost 9 weeks from the expiry, that's 2 months, that's 1/6th of the period...

      talk about making sure the money keeps rolling in...

      Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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      • P Offline
        pbacot
        last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 16:11

        same here.

        What's the penalty? (posted anywhere?)
        If you renew when does the period start? (posted anywhere?)
        Do you lose the right to continue using the version you had if you don't pay? (posted anywhere?)
        How does the yearly version update work? You have the right to DL any time you are paid up? or... (posted where?)

        I've looked at FAQ. My FAQ isn't there: "Who makes up these FAQ?"

        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        • D Offline
          driven
          last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 22:01

          the bottom line is it's not a subscription model...

          you own whatever version you paid the full price for, you can use it forever...

          you also own any upgrades during any maintenance period you have paid for, which may include more than one version change...

          You can end up owning multiple versions that you can continue to use, that is not the subscription model which denies all access to past purchases...

          all the information is available at the end of a simple search.

          john

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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          • P Offline
            pbacot
            last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 22:15

            Why search for it. Trimble should provide the information when they sell the software to you, then add fees.

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            • P Offline
              pbacot
              last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 22:16

              I did search, but no answers.

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • D Offline
                driven
                last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 22:50

                does this help?

                Just a moment...

                favicon

                (help.sketchup.com)

                sorry if I seemed dismissive...

                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                • P Offline
                  pbacot
                  last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 23:17

                  Thanks, that looks like a good site. I found others that didn't seem to explain it all.

                  I found it interesting that network licenses costs almost twice as much PER SEAT than single user, to upgrade. Wonder what the advantage is to pay so much more.

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                  • D Offline
                    driven
                    last edited by 30 Sept 2015, 23:23

                    @pbacot said:

                    ...network licenses costs almost twice as much PER SEAT than single user, to upgrade.

                    that probably has more to do with reseller margin bargaining power than price paid at the till...

                    john

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    • JQLJ Offline
                      JQL
                      last edited by 1 Oct 2015, 00:15

                      @pbacot said:

                      Thanks, that looks like a good site. I found others that didn't seem to explain it all.

                      I found it interesting that network licenses costs almost twice as much PER SEAT than single user, to upgrade. Wonder what the advantage is to pay so much more.

                      Network licences can be used to as much as a zillion users with the same licence. Single user licences are single user licences.

                      Network licences only drawbacks are:
                      Costier
                      No two users can use the same licence at the same time.

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                      • N Offline
                        numerobis
                        last edited by 1 Oct 2015, 17:05

                        @baz said:

                        How do I see where I am at with the yearly sub. and 30 days late means another fine!

                        You can't see it and i think this is done intentionally. There is simply no way to be so dumb to overlook this point when you set up a subscription model... and even more so after two years of testing.
                        I missed the point and now i will wait until the time equals the penalty! - so i think i will upgrade a few months later this time - or maybe not, depending on the new features...

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                          driven
                          last edited by 1 Oct 2015, 17:27

                          the information is readily available with a simple search...
                          @unknownuser said:

                          Retrieving your SketchUp Pro license information
                          To retrieve your SketchUp Pro license information, please note the steps below. Please be aware if you purchased your license through a reseller, we recommend contacting the reseller to retrieve the license.

                          Add "sketchupmail@sketchup.com" to your email contacts list.
                          Go to our Resend license page. If you no longer have your serial number, you can Retrieve it instead.
                          Enter your most recent serial number. If you still have SketchUp Pro installed, you can find this number by browsing to Help (SketchUp on a Mac) > License > License Info.
                          Click the "Resend" link. The license will be resent to the email address associated with the license.
                          Tip: If you don't receive an email with your license, please check your email's Spam or Junk folders.

                          and as mentioned before, it's not a subscription model...

                          john

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • N Offline
                            numerobis
                            last edited by 1 Oct 2015, 18:27

                            @driven said:

                            and as mentioned before, it's not a subscription model...

                            Call it what you want. It works like the old Autodesk subscription model and i don't care that they are now using this term for leasing. The point is that you have to pay a penalty if you miss the point and they are not mentioning the date in the program. I could be so easy...

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                              pbacot
                              last edited by 1 Oct 2015, 19:49

                              @jql said:

                              @pbacot said:

                              Thanks, that looks like a good site. I found others that didn't seem to explain it all.

                              I found it interesting that network licenses costs almost twice as much PER SEAT than single user, to upgrade. Wonder what the advantage is to pay so much more.

                              Network licences can be used to as much as a zillion users with the same licence. Single user licences are single user licences.

                              Network licences only drawbacks are:
                              Costier
                              No two users can use the same licence at the same time.

                              So what do you use if you have an office and you want everyone to work on SU whenever they want?

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                Richard
                                last edited by 19 Nov 2015, 03:30

                                @baz said:

                                how does this stuff work?

                                i have 170+gst debited from my account

                                i have my receipt and new serial and auth code

                                this is after about 8 mails to my new aussie provider, come back kevin!

                                I'm hearing ya! I had to chase and chase the new Aussie provider, despite that they'd taken my cash! Yeah come back Kevin!!

                                [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                • J Offline
                                  juju
                                  last edited by 19 Nov 2015, 07:24

                                  @richard said:

                                  @baz said:

                                  how does this stuff work?

                                  i have 170+gst debited from my account

                                  i have my receipt and new serial and auth code

                                  this is after about 8 mails to my new aussie provider, come back kevin!

                                  I'm hearing ya! I had to chase and chase the new Aussie provider, despite that they'd taken my cash! Yeah come back Kevin!!

                                  so glad I bought directly and online...

                                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                  • JQLJ Offline
                                    JQL
                                    last edited by 19 Nov 2015, 10:36

                                    @pbacot said:

                                    So what do you use if you have an office and you want everyone to work on SU whenever they want?

                                    Sorry for the late reply... The answer might be simple but I think it still matters:

                                    • You probably should buy standard licences for all.

                                    However if your office really has a zillion colaborators, you should talk directly to trimble, I'm pretty sure they will give you a discount...

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                                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                                      Mike Amos
                                      last edited by 1 Dec 2015, 11:25

                                      @juju said:

                                      yeah, I hear you, I got my love-letter reminding me that my maintenance & support will be expiring soon, so soon that it is 8 almost 9 weeks from the expiry, that's 2 months, that's 1/6th of the period...

                                      talk about making sure the money keeps rolling in...

                                      That is nothing. I used to have a Nat Geo subscription and they started telling me my subscription period was running out one month after I paid for it, and kept 'reminding' me every three to four weeks. Needless to say I no longer have a nat geo subscription and they have agreed not to bother me.

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                                      • J Offline
                                        juju
                                        last edited by 1 Dec 2015, 14:40

                                        yep, so I renewed subscription the day before the maintenance expired, let's see what gets delivered over the next year...

                                        Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                        • G Offline
                                          Garry K
                                          last edited by 1 Dec 2015, 18:15

                                          Another thing to consider is that some plugin authors are going to add new features for SU 2016 and forward. This has to do with the change in security.

                                          Some unscrupulous individuals have been opening RBS files and taking code that doesn't belong to them. Trimble added a new encryption strategy to protect plugin authors IP. I'm pretty sure they realized their own sales potential over this.

                                          At least old versions of SU will still work with old versions of the plugins (minus enhancements and bug fixes).

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