Rest of Model Hiding on Component Double Click
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For a reason which I have not yet determined, some times (and I emphasize sometimes) when I double click a component, it hides the rest of the model. While I realize there are many times when you want to edit a component that hiding the rest of the model is an asset, there are times when I would not like for this to happen.
Here is the conundrum, it does not happen all of the time. It seems to happen automatically in some models and in other models I have to used my short cut to make this happen.
Is there a setting somewhere that I am missing?
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Unless I am misunderstanding, you are missing out on an important feature.
Look under the Menu: "View / Component Edit" and the item "Hide Rest of Model" This can be toggled on and off. Best to set a hot key to this toggle (you need to have a component selected in order to set the key).
This setting can change with scenes or styles so you may see it set differently from time to time.
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I am embarrassed that I missed that setting. The Hide Rest of Model was checked.
I already had a Ctrl-H set for hiding the rest of the model (which is very handy at times but not always necessary). Just went back to the model where I had the problem and all works as I want it.
Thanks a ton.
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Hide rest of model is saved by model...
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@jql said:
Hide rest of model is saved by model...
Yes, I discovered this also and reviewed several recent models and corrected. I feel pretty silly that I did not catch this and correct it before posting. I do appreciate the responses.
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Why would you do that? Why do you think this was something that needed "correction".
This "hide rest of model" state is neither right nor wrong. It is a state that is only intended to help you model in some contexts. It's a toggle that sometimes helps and sometimes doesn't so you are permanently turning it on and off.
It doesn't influence your model, your model exports, Layout visualization, etc...
I'm turning it on and off while using a single command like editing a component, hiding rest of model, selecting parts of the component, select move tool, (un)hiding rest of model, click a reference point, hide rest of model, move the selection to some part of the component that was hidden by the rest of the model.
As you see, by this example, modelling effectivelly in sketchup requires you to permanently be turning hide rest of model on and off.
Most of us do this by assigning a shortcut and I bet that none of us cares or knows if the model has been saved with that feature toggled on or off...
I have it assigned to H key. Pressing H quickly toggles it.
I've also assigned it to Shift+H because shift is used by sketchup to lock inferences and if you release it anytime (pressing H counts) you loose inference. Having shift+H as shortcut allows us to toggle Hide rest of model without releasing shift nor loosing a locked inference. -
@jql said:
Why would you do that? Why do you think this was something that needed "correction".
This "hide rest of model" state is neither right nor wrong. It is a state that is only intended to help you model in some contexts. It's a toggle that sometimes helps and sometimes doesn't so you are permanently turning it on and off.
It doesn't influence your model, your model exports, Layout visualization, etc...
I'm turning it on and off while using a single command like editing a component, hiding rest of model, selecting parts of the component, select move tool, (un)hiding rest of model, click a reference point, hide rest of model, move the selection to some part of the component that was hidden by the rest of the model.
As you see, by this example, modelling effectivelly in sketchup requires you to permanently be turning hide rest of model on and off.
Most of us do this by assigning a shortcut and I bet that none of us cares or knows if the model has been saved with that feature toggled on or off...
I have it assigned to H key. Pressing H quickly toggles it.
I've also assigned it to Shift+H because shift is used by sketchup to lock inferences and if you release it anytime (pressing H counts) you loose inference. Having shift+H as shortcut allows us to toggle Hide rest of model without releasing shift nor loosing a locked inference.I actually prefer to use the Ctrl-H. There are actually like to edit a component without hiding the rest of the model. Therefore I would prefer that the Hide Rest of Model in the context menu is never turned on and that I use the shortcut to accomplish hiding the rest of the model when I want and not as the default action. At least that is my preference and is why I went back into the models and turned the option in the context menu.
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You are free to do what you prefer in everything in life!
My advice was based on my own experience wich is limited to myself!
I'd only question if you know how to use shift for inference locking?
If you do and if you fully understood what I wrote, wich I might have messed up with my poor explanation, then you are fully aware of the implications and you can get along with sleeping at night.
PS the only thing that raises doubts in what you said is that "Hide rest of model" is not the same as the "Hide" that is sitting on top of the context menu. They are two completelly different things and either you confused "context menu" with "view menu" either you confused both "hides". If the first confusion is natural, the second is dangerous...
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@jql said:
You are free to do what you prefer in everything in life!
My advice was based on my own experience wich is limited to myself!
I'd only question if you know how to use shift for inference locking?
If you do and if you fully understood what I wrote, wich I might have messed up with my poor explanation, then you are fully aware of the implications and you can get along with sleeping at night.
PS the only thing that raises doubts in what you said is that "Hide rest of model" is not the same as the "Hide" that is sitting on top of the context menu. They are two completelly different things and either you confused "context menu" with "view menu" either you confused both "hides". If the first confusion is natural, the second is dangerous...
Maybe I am the one that is not clear in what I am saying.
Yes, I know the difference. The one that I turned off as as the default is View>Component Edit> Hide rest of model. I have a Ctrl-H shortcut set up that I use if I want to edit the component with the rest of the model hidden.
Maybe I am not 100% sure of what you are saying about the inference locking though.
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You do know about inferencing don't you? SU can find points on:
On model axis and origin;
Parallel to model axis (red, green, blue)
Edges - endpoints; midpoints; perpendicular; parallel; intersection with faces; at same X, Y or Z from points; at extensions from edges; etc
Faces - On faces; on face plan extensions;
Guides - On guide lines, on guide points, on extension to guides... etc.Everytime you find an inference like these you get a visual cue. Endpoints, Redcross for intersections, red dot for on line, blue dot for middle points, black dot for on plane, pink line for parallel, perpendicular or extension lines, red, green and blue lines for axis or parallel to axis lines, etc...
With these inferences, when a cue appears on screen it means you are controlling where you place, create or edit your geometry based on that specific inference (or relation with existing geometry).
Some of these inferences are Lockeable... wich means that if you press and hold the shift key you'll never loose that inference.
This locking makes you be able to:
- Accuratelly design in SU with the given inference;
- Able to stack multiple inferences to relate points together.
Inference Locking by holding the Shift key is only possible while you keep shift key pressed down.
As soon as you release it you'll loose inference.
Having CTRL+H for hide rest of model means that if you want to hide the model to perform a command, while you have an inference lock in progress, you have to release SHIFT KEY and press down CTRL+H and you'll loose the inference. If you do not release SHIFT and still press down CTRL+H keys, you are creating a different combo wich is SHIFT+CTRL+H. This will not make the toggle work unless SHIFT+CTRL+H is assigned to the toggle too.
I hope that is clear and I hope that you use SU's inference system. It is such a fundamental system that even if it is one of the reasons that make sketchup slower than some other 3D modellers most of us wouldn't think of letting it go for speed sake...
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Yep, I use inferencing a lot. Do not use the locking mechanism other than moving though. Will practice it more though.
I appreciate your information though. I promise I will use it more often.
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