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    • Wo3DanW Offline
      Wo3Dan
      last edited by

      @fredo6 said:

      ......I this is of interest I can later derive a more advanced version with choice of units and interactive selection, similar to what I did for areas with FredoTools::ReportLabelArea.Fredo

      It would be nice to be able to make your own selection of multiple solids to obtain the sum of volumes. And with unit of choice! And without differences in volume due to location!

      Although I do believe that solids with all back faces outwards should be considered as negative. (also see previous post by TIG).
      A mixture of front and back faces in a single shell should result in a warning.

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      • fredo6F Offline
        fredo6
        last edited by

        I published SolidVolume 1.1, which handles also faces area of the solid and allow to navigate in the selection, manually or via the outliner. It also works when the selection includes several solids, either independent or embedded in groups / components.

        Mixed back and front faces in a solid should give the same volume value as if all faces were correctly oriented outward.

        Fredo

        SolidVolume discrepencies.gif

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Excelent to have Volume + Surface ! Bravo!

          If this bug(?) is proved maybe will be useful to apply a correction factor ?

          Try also with this volume on the left! 😉

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            Pilou,

            On your model, it looks like Sketchup has a problem in computing the aggregate volume of the walls (41.5 m3) and the small cube (1 m3) when reversed. It counts the cube negatively, so the total is 40.5 m3. SolidVolume counts evrything positively, so the aggregate volume is 42.5 m3.

            Fredo

            Pilou model Volume.png

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              And about big moving on the space does that change measures ?

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • kenK Offline
                ken
                last edited by

                Fredo6

                Attached is a file with two boxes. One was created with sdmitch "Rotated Box" plugin, the other using the rectangle tool in Sketchup. Note there is a difference with your program showing the volume.

                I can't see why the volumes would be this far off.


                Volumes.skp

                Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                • fredo6F Offline
                  fredo6
                  last edited by

                  @Ken,

                  I also fixed this one, thanks for signaling.

                  New release in FredoTools v2.7d

                  Fredo

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                  • kenK Offline
                    ken
                    last edited by

                    fredo6

                    Thanks that did the trick.

                    Ken

                    Note, volume isn't everything, I require the weight of a filled container. I have taken one of TIG's volume plugin and added the math to determine the weight of the volume; oil, water, buoyancy salt water, buoyancy fresh water, river mud, concrete, wet river gravel, and barrel of oil. Had a great time in the learning process of modifying a plugin.

                    fredo6, thanks for this plugin. And thank you TIG.

                    And not to highjack this thread, your movealong plugin is absolutely fantastic.

                    Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Note, volume isn't everything, I require the weight of a filled container. I have taken one of TIG's volume plugin and added the math to determine the weight of the volume; oil, water, buoyancy salt water, buoyancy fresh water, river mud, concrete, wet river gravel, and barrel of oil. Had a great time in the learning process of modifying a plugin.

                      I can easily add an additional section to give the weight for a number of materials in several units.

                      Fredo

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                      • kenK Offline
                        ken
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                        fredo6

                        Thank you for the offer, however I believe that would be a lot of work that wouldn't be of use to most Sketchup user. To give you an idea of my list:

                        Barrels of Oil (Note there is only 42 gallons)
                        lbs Steel (A36)
                        lbs SS304
                        lbs Brass
                        lbs Aluminum
                        lbs zinc
                        lbs Lead
                        lbs Gravel Wet
                        lbs River Mud
                        lbs Sand Water
                        FW buoyany 62.4 lbs/cuft - Fresh Water
                        SW buoyancy 64.1 lb/cuft - Salt Water
                        lbs Crude oil

                        This list has been modified or added to as required. So I don't see how a set list would cover all the variables. Now a user input section would be nice, if it held the variables between sessions. Still a lot of work for a very few.

                        On another note, if you look at the image, you will see that the bottom part of your form is not being displayed. Maybe the box should be a little taller.


                        Image 1.png

                        Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          The free fabulous Designspark Mechanical (SpaceClaim Light) has this inside its library as Volumic Mass 😉
                          (my French Page(s) about this SU on Steroïds 😉
                          designsparks.jpg

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Thank you for the offer, however I believe that would be a lot of work that wouldn't be of use to most Sketchup user.

                            Just a reasonable work, in hours, to add the feature with a custom editable list.

                            @unknownuser said:

                            On another note, if you look at the image, you will see that the bottom part of your form is not being displayed. Maybe the box should be a little taller.

                            I fixed the problem in Fredotools v2.7e.

                            Fredo

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