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    • M Offline
      magazines
      last edited by

      Hello!
      I have been trying to assemble arrays of solid groups or components and running into problems.
      I've made a two-unit rhombic volume that I want to join with copies to form a cube of repeated units.
      I managed to join the two together with an outer shell, but now trying to form a line of ten of them crashes SU every time I try.

      It appears that using these solid groups also results in splats with the other solid tools. I can't figure out why.

      If anyone wanted to try it out, I would be interested to find out if you had problems or not.

      Here's what it looks like:
      screenshot-3.jpg

      Thanks for any advice!
      BTW, I am on a year old imac.

      mesh rhombic array working 12gon vers14.skp

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        Yes it causes a splatt for me on windows.
        It could be related to how you made the solids, were they a single component at some stage?
        If you take the end two and simply reverse the order then do a move copy 10, you can solid tool them to your hearts content. It's almost as if it's trying to cut itself and has a fit. It's like trying to paste a component inside itself, it can't be done. Which is why I ask if you made them from a component.

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          I dragged off a copy of that group at the right end, exploded it and then made a component of it. Then I made a short array on which I ran the Union tool. It worked just fine for me. Box's suggestion that it has something to do with the way the group was made might be on the right track.
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          • M Offline
            magazines
            last edited by

            Thanks for looking at the model. I think that you both were right that these were made in an odd way somehow. I found internal faces despite these being solid groups! Is that even possible - shouldn't be, right? And yes they had been constructed of components, but I thought I had exploded them and made them unique before making as group. Very strange to me.

            So, I returned to the original 12gon beams that make up the forms and removed everything and reconstructed them entirely from group joined to group into an individual rhombic dodecahedron. Great. Then I was able to use the union tool to join one of these to a copy of itself for a solid group of two of these. Great.
            But then I went to make the line of ten! Looks all good but splaat. I can't figure it out.
            I've attached a two part unjoined pair of unique groups that causes SU to splat every time for me. What could I be doing wrong?
            Thanks for looking.


            mesh rhombic array working 12gon no internals_unique groups.skp

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            • D Offline
              driven
              last edited by

              I deleted your second group...

              moved a copy of the first to where it was, then entered 9x >> hit return...

              with the ten groups, I started at one end using union and added them one by one to the other end...
              worked fine...

              john

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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              • M Offline
                magazines
                last edited by

                Hi John,
                Thanks for giving it a try. I just duplicated what you said and sure enough: Splat. Out of curiosity, are you on windows or a mac and using su14 or 15? And did you try with the two that I made? Can you tell me if outershell works for you with these?
                I'm not sure what to do now, it seems like there is something really strange going on with my machine. Trimble sure has gotten a lot of Splat notices from my way lately.

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                • D Offline
                  driven
                  last edited by

                  outer shell did bugsplat, I sent in the report...

                  will have a look at why...

                  I'm on an older mac, but v15 and Yosemite, so it's all up to date...

                  john

                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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