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  • J Offline
    john2
    last edited by 18 Nov 2014, 07:56

    I want to make a perforated sheet of metal or anything in sketchup which follows some parametric rules. e.g.

    I have 5 circular holes in a rectangular sheet

    then I make 4 circular holes placed at a specific position calculated with references to the spacing of the 5 ciruclar holes that I made.

    The new 4 circular holes have some mathematical relation of their radii with the 5 circles that I made earlier.

    And so on...I continue to make more circular holes in the sheet. The radii of all those circles are interdependent on all the circles that I made.

    So, if I change radii of one circle, the other circular holes would change in their size accordingly.

    Any trick to do this quickly in sketchup?

    Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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      Pixero
      last edited by 18 Nov 2014, 09:59

      Here is a link to a tutorial how to make parametric holes via ruby in SketchUp.
      http://sketchupfordesign.com/the-book/chapter-6-creating-geometry-using-ruby-scripting/

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        john2
        last edited by 18 Nov 2014, 14:46

        @pixero said:

        Here is a link to a tutorial how to make parametric holes via ruby in SketchUp.
        http://sketchupfordesign.com/the-book/chapter-6-creating-geometry-using-ruby-scripting/

        Actually I am an architect. So, very bad with scripting an all. Is it possible to make a plugin or something out of this script? Please understand, I have a really hectic schedule and learning new code or language would be really stressful. 😳

        Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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          cotty
          last edited by 18 Nov 2014, 16:58

          Sounds like a task for a dynamic component, but I wouldn't call it a quick solution...

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            jeff hammond
            last edited by 18 Nov 2014, 20:09

            @john2 said:

            Actually I am an architect. So, very bad with scripting an all. Is it possible to make a plugin or something out of this script? Please understand, I have a really hectic schedule and learning new code or language would be really stressful. 😳

            do you have a clearer example of what the outcome should be? (other than.. i have 5 holes which determine 4 holes.. etc.)

            dotdotdot

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              john2
              last edited by 19 Nov 2014, 14:00

              @jeff hammond said:

              @john2 said:

              Actually I am an architect. So, very bad with scripting an all. Is it possible to make a plugin or something out of this script? Please understand, I have a really hectic schedule and learning new code or language would be really stressful. 😳

              do you have a clearer example of what the outcome should be? (other than.. i have 5 holes which determine 4 holes.. etc.)

              Well, I'm in the process of brainstorming design ideas, much like what Zaha hadid does using parametric software like Rhino, etc.

              One thing is a perforated wall with lots and lots of holes which gives a dynamic and scattery scattery look, [pardon my words], that is given on the page suggested by Pixero sir. 👍 👍

              Thanks a lot for the food for thought!! Hey!! rhyming 😄 🎉 😄
              .

              Another one which has got me even more excited is how the walls change their angles if one of the walls is made to change its angle of inclination. It is also given on the same page, which Pixero Sir posted.

              What my ambition to make in sketchup is actually in this video, a great TED talk by Greg lynn explaining organic algorithms in the field of architecture.

              Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                pilou
                last edited by 19 Nov 2014, 14:08

                Look at the SUforyou plugin! 😉

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by 21 Nov 2014, 05:29

                  @john2 said:

                  Well, I'm in the process of brainstorming design ideas, much like what Zaha hadid does using parametric software like Rhino, etc.

                  tbh, 'like rhino' in sketchup only goes so far.. if you want to do what Zaha does, use rhino 😉

                  @unknownuser said:

                  One thing is a perforated wall with lots and lots of holes which gives a dynamic and scattery scattery look, [pardon my words], that is given on the page suggested by Pixero sir. 👍 👍

                  see example..

                  but yeah, i think it might be better to approach this type of stuff in sketchup from a sketchup point of view instead of a math point of view.. for the user, sketchup isn't very math driven at all so maybe don't try to force math on it..
                  (unless you want to learn ruby to do it.. but for me personally, i'd rather spend time learning rhino&grasshopper than learning ruby 😉 )

                  @unknownuser said:

                  What my ambition to make in sketchup is actually in this video, a great TED talk by Greg lynn explaining organic algorithms in the field of architecture.

                  yeah, i think you can get the gist of what he's getting at in sketchup.. just not via calculus..


                  Array of cones and a curviloft skin

                  Drop (smustard) cones to skin

                  Place flat plane in cone array

                  Intersect

                  Push Pull

                  dotdotdot

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                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by 21 Nov 2014, 05:57

                    here's a similar experiment i did around four years ago..

                    it uses spheres with chrisfullmer's 'component onto faces' then joint push pull..
                    sketchup was pretty much dead with this geometry.. use squares instead of circles if you're going to be trying this stuff 😉

                    choked.jpg

                    dotdotdot

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 21 Nov 2014, 09:12

                      Tricky steps of cones! 👍
                      But some efforts for the same result than shown on my previous video!
                      (and you can't modify the result of the holes by editing a component! 😉

                      ...Try the SuForyou plugins above! 😒

                      Very powerful and versatile! 😎

                      http://s6.postimg.org/5kuubufgx/suforyou.jpg

                      Some fractal forms 💚

                      http://s6.postimg.org/50y6s4frl/simili.jpg

                      http://s6.postimg.org/ujv4ivopd/simili1.jpg

                      and others concepts

                      http://s6.postimg.org/7g8hp0e35/suforyou2.jpg

                      http://s6.postimg.org/gdt7md6j5/suforyou3.jpg

                      Very pleasant plugins! ☀

                      Zaha recommends SuForyou! 💚

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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