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[Plugin] Eneroth Railroad System (v 0.1.21)

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    deaneau
    last edited by 28 Jul 2014, 08:24

    @eneroth3 said:

    This cannot be done on rolling stocks that are already initialized such as those in the rolling stock library. The scale would be reset when driving. Also it won't work on tracks. Scaling tracks with the scale tool changes the path they are drawn to and is used when you for instance want to change the radius or the length. The track is then redrawn with the same guage as before.

    ok this mean if the loco is build in 1:1 Scale and saved in the library scaling doesnt work

    if i design a H0 extrusion-profil (16,5mm) and build the loco in H0 scale and than save to the library this will work. right?

    hm, than have a model loco the same speed like a real loco. m/s. wow ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    next
    what about a field to insert a radius.

    i have try to measure the radius for 10ยฐ and 20ยฐ curves. and when i calculate this with the rule of 3 i will have different results.

    is this a calculation error by sketchup or by the plugin?

    the real railroad in europe measure a curved track in Radius

    404 Not Found

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    the picture mean. the car can drive minimum this curve radius or higher.

    MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
    Big Thank You to all Programmers
    Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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      eneroth3
      last edited by 28 Jul 2014, 19:27

      You can draw the locomotive at any size but then only use it at that size. Duplicating the same rolling stocks for different scales really isn't the right way to go. Also the slider in the drive dialog would be wrong unless the plugin doesn't know the scale and can adapt to it. The same goes for arrows in the switch tool and add rolling stock tool. I think it's easiest to draw in full scale in Sketchup. After all a model railroad is also a model representing the real world (or at least an imaginary part of it) which is in full scale.

      My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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        deaneau
        last edited by 31 Jul 2014, 09:17

        Hello i quick info about an exportplugin to a game...

        look here

        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323%26amp;t=58665%26amp;p=533934#p533934

        MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
        Big Thank You to all Programmers
        Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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          eneroth3
          last edited by 31 Jul 2014, 20:41

          Version 0.1.14 is out!

          structure.png

          There are a few new features. The biggest is probably that tracks has been split into the actual track and the structures to place along the track. this means that there are more combinations of tracks and structures but also that there can be several structures at the same place, e.g. a bridge and a platform alongside the track. Or a platform at each side.

          The old track types with structures built in are no longer shipped with the extension. You may want to remove these from the "Tracks/" subfolder in the plugin's folder before updating to get a cleaner track list. However that also prevents you from redrawing existing tracks of those types in the model unless you change the track type and add the structure separately.

          The signal system has also been updated and users can now create their own signals quite easily. There's also an option in Add Track tool and Track properties not to have any signals at all.

          Tracks with signals need to be fully redrawn to utilize the new signal system. This can be done manually by clicking them with the Track Position tool and go back (Esc or Enter) without changing their control points.

          Lastly the Track properties dialog now supports multiple tracks at once. This makes it a lot easier to change the track type of several tracks at once.

          There are also some bugfixes such as the Add Track tool now working in models with imperial units (stupid units using the same characters as are used as string delimiters -_- ).

          I'm now also sponsored by a company called JPods to help them visualize their product for customers. JPods are small rail vehicles carrying just a few passengers each all the way to the chosen station within the network without any need for interchange. All powered with solar panels.

          Download

          Example Model

          My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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            deaneau
            last edited by 2 Aug 2014, 02:05

            @eneroth3 said:

            Dean: My names are both Julia and Christina but most people say Christina. And I don't understand what that image has to do with anything.

            this was picture language.

            last theme was clearance/loading gaudge and the link i gave you was an inspiration.

            if you compare all the measures american and european you will understand my picture.

            in the US is all a littlebit bigger, then in europe. i dont know how good you know the american freight cars. there you have double-decker-container-cars like this.

            http://www.railway-technical.com/cofc-double-stack.gif

            and i have asking me, how look the tunnels there.

            nice we

            dean

            MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
            Big Thank You to all Programmers
            Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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              deaneau
              last edited by 2 Aug 2014, 02:08

              Link Preview Image
              Home Page | The Railway Technical Website | PRC Rail Consulting Ltd

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              MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
              Big Thank You to all Programmers
              Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                deaneau
                last edited by 2 Aug 2014, 02:59

                about jPod is this a station or is this only a solar panele?

                i cant see elevators or escalators

                _2014.08.02_04h49m09s_024_00922.jpg

                Link Preview Image
                JPods - Wikipedia

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                looks nice.

                this could be design in a game too

                Google Search

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                will be different colors of cars a different line?
                like this

                _2014.08.02_05h19m08s_025_00923.jpg

                do you know more about this system? ok elecrical (solar). in berlin we have had monorail

                M-Bahn - Die Magnetbahn Referenzstrecke in Berlin - Nahverkehrstechnologie Entwickelt in Berlin - www.berliner-verkehrsseiten.de

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                (www.berliner-verkehrsseiten.de)

                http://www.berliner-verkehrsseiten.de/m-bahn/M-Bahn-1988.jpg

                MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
                Big Thank You to all Programmers
                Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                  fionmacool
                  last edited by 3 Aug 2014, 10:41

                  Apologies if this has been already covered but I can't find a reference.
                  How do I change the train direction? Both when placing the train and when the train has been placed already?

                  Zere are still some architectes zat do not know ow to use ze SketchUp..... Zis is unbelievable....

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                    eneroth3
                    last edited by 3 Aug 2014, 14:49

                    @fionmacool said:

                    Apologies if this has been already covered but I can't find a reference.
                    How do I change the train direction? Both when placing the train and when the train has been placed already?

                    To go backwards you set the speed to zero and the reverse button gets enabled in the drive dialog. To place it the other way around I think you should press tab. I'm currently at my frinds house and don't have Sketchup or the plugin installed here but the status bar text in add rolling stock tool should say what key to press.

                    @deaneau said:

                    about jPod is this a station or is this only a solar panele?

                    i cant see elevators or escalators

                    [attachment=1:3s1hozl4]<!-- ia1 -->_2014.08.02_04h49m09s_024_00922.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:3s1hozl4]

                    Link Preview Image
                    JPods - Wikipedia

                    favicon

                    (en.wikipedia.org)

                    looks nice.

                    this could be design in a game too

                    Google Search

                    favicon

                    (www.google.de)

                    will be different colors of cars a different line?
                    like this

                    [attachment=0:3s1hozl4]<!-- ia0 -->_2014.08.02_05h19m08s_025_00923.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3s1hozl4]

                    do you know more about this system? ok elecrical (solar). in berlin we have had monorail

                    M-Bahn - Die Magnetbahn Referenzstrecke in Berlin - Nahverkehrstechnologie Entwickelt in Berlin - www.berliner-verkehrsseiten.de

                    favicon

                    (www.berliner-verkehrsseiten.de)

                    http://www.berliner-verkehrsseiten.de/m-bahn/M-Bahn-1988.jpg

                    That's a solar panel. There wont be different lines. The pod goes all the way to the station you want it to go to.

                    My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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                      deaneau
                      last edited by 3 Aug 2014, 19:25

                      thanks Christina,
                      without Sketchup? wow. some times sketchup is a drug, and the sketchucation server was down here. some bad minutes or houres.

                      _2014.08.03_19h12m42s_001_00899.jpg
                      http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hl-Signalsystem

                      and a little movie

                      _2014.08.03_19h15m43s_002_00900.wmv

                      ...
                      _2014.08.03_19h22m02s_004_00902.jpg

                      _2014.08.03_19h23m41s_005_00903.jpg

                      trigger and contacts to switch sinals and brake shoe
                      _2014.08.03_20h02m59s_008_00906.jpg

                      _2014.08.03_19h25m08s_007_00905.jpg

                      _2014.08.03_21h29m53s_010_00908.jpg

                      MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
                      Big Thank You to all Programmers
                      Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                        eneroth3
                        last edited by 4 Aug 2014, 10:39

                        Dean:

                        Do you have the specifications this model is drawn after? I'd like to know the width of where the catenary can be and the default height. Measurements of the catenary support structure would be very useful too. Also if there's a specific color used on these that color code would be useful for drawing own catenary.

                        My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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                          deaneau
                          last edited by 4 Aug 2014, 18:57

                          @eneroth3 said:

                          Dean:

                          Do you have the specifications this model is drawn after? I'd like to know the width of where the catenary can be and the default height. Measurements of the catenary support structure would be very useful too. Also if there's a specific color used on these that color code would be useful for drawing own catenary.

                          do you talking about a german system, or what? we have in europe many different systems...

                          when you can waiting a little time, i will search all about this. my information is based on german system.

                          here a page about Swiss, Austria and Germany

                          however geman language

                          http://homepage.hispeed.ch/wili-the-wire/

                          sorry, tecknical publications will be very rare and this special in english is more than rare.

                          the table is spliited in Text, Drawing(blueprints) and photos. i think the Drawings will be important for you. dont wondering that some pictures in this page is before 1945,too.

                          EDIT:
                          dean

                          MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
                          Big Thank You to all Programmers
                          Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                            eneroth3
                            last edited by 8 Aug 2014, 07:18

                            I haven't had time to check out the link until now. Some of the drawings seem really useful ๐Ÿ˜„ . I'm mostly interested in the German system but it seems to be quite similar the Swedish one.

                            My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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                              deaneau
                              last edited by 8 Aug 2014, 09:57

                              @eneroth3 said:

                              I haven't had time to check out the link until now. Some of the drawings seem really useful ๐Ÿ˜„ . I'm mostly interested in the German system but it seems to be quite similar the Swedish one.

                              i could look, to find some informations about differences. hight over rail head (SO in german). etc.

                              ok is not your question however could look good in ERS

                              https://www.htw-dresden.de/uploads/tx_templavoila/E-Highway.jpg

                              dean

                              MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
                              Big Thank You to all Programmers
                              Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                                eneroth3
                                last edited by 8 Aug 2014, 23:02

                                The typical height of the catenary would be useful to know. I know it's not constant in real life and can be lower under bridges for instance but since it would be constant in the plugin it would be useful to know what value to set it to.

                                I don't have the time myself to draw lines for trucks but if I get the catenary to work any user could add it. I'll focus mostly on rail transport which is what the plugin is designed for and I've already proved it can be used for roads too even if that really should have its own plugin with features such as changing lane anywhere and driving manually.

                                The main focus for the next release will be a new track drawing mode for continuous rail lines connecting points selected by the user. This will be much faster than the current method of adding short track segments and manually reposition them to desired length and angle. It will also support transition curves to reduce jerk when entering or leaving a curve.

                                transition curve.png

                                main line.png

                                transition_example.png

                                My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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                                  deaneau
                                  last edited by 9 Aug 2014, 03:26

                                  @eneroth3 said:

                                  The typical height of the catenary would be useful to know. I know it's not constant in real life and can be lower under bridges for instance but since it would be constant in the plugin it would be useful to know what value to set it to.

                                  I don't have the time myself to draw lines for trucks but if I get the catenary to work any user could add it. I'll focus mostly on rail transport which is what the plugin is designed for and I've already proved it can be used for roads too even if that really should have its own plugin with features such as changing lane anywhere and driving manually.

                                  The main focus for the next release will be a new track drawing mode for continuous rail lines connecting points selected by the user. This will be much faster than the current method of adding short track segments and manually reposition them to desired length and angle. It will also support transition curves to reduce jerk when entering or leaving a curve.

                                  [attachment=2:28av6pjt]<!-- ia2 -->transition curve.png<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:28av6pjt]

                                  [attachment=1:28av6pjt]<!-- ia1 -->main line.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:28av6pjt]

                                  [attachment=0:28av6pjt]<!-- ia0 -->transition_example.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:28av6pjt]

                                  hi Christina, yes thats right about different height.

                                  i the pictures you can see the red area, over the clearance diagram (blue /yellow) this is the room that can move the pantograph. in the short movie, you can see the movement of the wire along the pantograph (zig zag). when you will have the clearance diagram and the catenary i can send this via PM.
                                  MIBA have a german seria about railroad infrastructure (signals, catenary etc.)

                                  do you want remove complete the old system, laying out the tracks? this system was good for people will using your plugin for planing the modelrail road ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  for example. if you want plan a mรคrklin board, this could build first in 1:1 and than, if i finished..you can scale this down to the H0,TT,N scale. ok than withot driving trains.

                                  https://shop.vgbahn.info/miba/shop/elektrische+fahrleitungen-_197.html

                                  https://shop.vgbahn.info/miba/shop/signale++band+1-_194.html

                                  MIBA have specialist literature not only for model railroader.

                                  however only in german ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  actually i work on signals

                                  http://www.elektrische-bahnen.de/technik/ol_aufbau_1930.jpg

                                  dean

                                  MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
                                  Big Thank You to all Programmers
                                  Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                                    eneroth3
                                    last edited by 12 Aug 2014, 11:48

                                    The latest version with the new track drawing mode is now published. In Add Track Tool you can now click points in the model that will be connected with a continuous railroad line. Curves with customizable radius and curvature change rate will be automatically added at the corners. The old 'From Scratch' mode is of course kept but now called 'Junction' to distinguish it from the mode for drawing lines.

                                    From now on I'm also publishing the plugin without translations included since waiting for it to be translated has delayed the publishing process previously. Also I don't want to put pressure on the translators to finish their translations if they are busy or away from home. However I hope the translators will post their translations here once they've had the time to complete them ๐Ÿ˜„ . In the plugin's lang folder there's a file called template.txt that contains all strings to translate. By comparing this, eg. with the notepad++ compare plugin, to the old translation file you can see what strings has been added or removed.

                                    My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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                                      deaneau
                                      last edited by 14 Aug 2014, 11:35

                                      cool idea Christina, this will done more than fast.

                                      thank you ๐Ÿ‘

                                      dean

                                      MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
                                      Big Thank You to all Programmers
                                      Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                                        deaneau
                                        last edited by 15 Aug 2014, 11:43

                                        Hello Christina,

                                        i would insert platform stairs,, is this better as structure?

                                        VIZ_0074.jpg

                                        VIZ_0075.jpg

                                        here a Plateform Name Sign

                                        VIZ_0073.jpg

                                        Ersingburg Hbf. this Name is fictive.. other Name like Ersingen and Ersing etc will be real.

                                        E-R-S...ingburg Hbf
                                        E-R-S...Eneroth Railroad System

                                        Plateform with Roof
                                        VIZ_0076.jpg

                                        VIZ_0077.jpg

                                        MADE, BORN AND LIVING IN BERLIN
                                        Big Thank You to all Programmers
                                        Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. M.Twain

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                                          eneroth3
                                          last edited by 17 Aug 2014, 19:56

                                          A platform and its roof is typically made as a structure so it can easily be used in multiple places and even in curves. The stairs could be made as structure ends (similar to a tunnel portal) if it will always be at both ends of the platform. Otherwise you can have a normal component for it.

                                          My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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