Showing Spanish Roof tiles in Layout
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I do a lot of designs using Spanish roofing tiles. Is there a way to show them in Layout that looks good for presentation drawings? I'm particularly concerned with making the eaves and ridges look good...not just flat as the Sketchup roof tile texture shows. I tried using a U.S. Tile component downloaded from the Warehouse, and duplicating all over the roof in my Sketchup model, but the file gets huge because of the multiple components and colors, and it doesn't translate well to layout. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Jeff, could you show an example of what you're getting now?
One thought that comes to mind is to make an image of the roof tiles and use that as a texture to replace the components. I've done similar things with tile floors when I couldn't find the texture I wanted but without seeing what you've got, I don't know if it would work for your specific application.
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Dave, I uploaded 2 layout sheets. One has all colors and textures, and the other is the same using a different style to get black and white. I need the color rendering for my client, but the local design review board won't accept color drawings. (Don't try to find any logic in that. There is none. Drives me nuts!) Anyway, that's why I'm trying to get a black and white drawing that shows mission tile instead of just straight roof edges.
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The color/texture sheet is too big to send, but you can see the tiles on the color perspective in black and white attachment.
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No I think I understand what you're after. My first thought would be to remove the materials from the tile components you've got. Maybe you could simplify the geometry of those tiles, too. Did you look at the Instant Roofs link Rashad posted?
Would it be adequate to show a few small patches of roof tiles instead of covering the entire roof with them in the illustrations?
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I did look at the instant roof plugin. Thanks Rashad. It's really good. I bought the pro version yesterday for sketchup modeling. But it doesn't solve the problem in Layout. Yesterday I did a vector rendering of the layout file and tried drawing some simple tiles on the roof edge, with the idea of copying them to important locations. I thought if this works I could save them to the scrapbook for future use. Being new to Layout, I'm not sure if this is a workable approach, but seems to be worth the time. What do you think?
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You could draw them in LO but I think I would draw them in SU. You could still save the tiles as scrap book items. Leave them as SketchUp viewports and you'll be able to edit them in SU later if needed.
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If you're only using a texture then you're going to have issues. Did you see that instant roof builds the actual tiles for the roof?
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@jlyon said:
I did look at the instant roof plugin. Thanks Rashad. It's really good. I bought the pro version yesterday for sketchup modeling. But it doesn't solve the problem in Layout. Yesterday I did a vector rendering of the layout file and tried drawing some simple tiles on the roof edge, with the idea of copying them to important locations. I thought if this works I could save them to the scrapbook for future use. Being new to Layout, I'm not sure if this is a workable approach, but seems to be worth the time. What do you think?
Yes, I think the above workaround would provide the best result. The roof tiles created via Instant roof are not individual tiles and only with the use of mission tile texture do the individual tiles seem to show.
So, making a small part of the roof with individually modeled tiles as a separate view port , perhaps masked and enlarged as a detail, should provide what you're seeking.
Here's hoping
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you can easily replace the tiles in VA Instant Roof with more detailed versions.
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Thanks everyone for your help. I'll try this workaround and see what happens.
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@krisidious said:
you can easily replace the tiles in VA Instant Roof with more detailed versions.
Easily?, really? I know it is doable, but it's not that easy as the tiles come in as groups.
What have I been missing for the past year. How does one do this, easily?
Would love to learn something new.....Thanks
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The InstantRoof tiles are a texture on a tubular shape. I'd use ThruPaint to change it. There are also material manager plugins (sure I have one but I forget...) that you can replace materials.
I've modeled the tiles for smaller areas. Sure it's a mess, but worth it sometimes. Once you have a plane of tiles you have the main part done, and a stack that you can rotate onto the hip, it's the cleanup that takes time. Thus you really have to want to do it.
For LO (as this was the original question), it is better to make a pattern in an illustrator or raster program for the field. My approach would actually be to bring a pattern in from my CAD and copy paste the hips and other edges from there as it is easier for me to draw there. So that is not a pure SU-LO solution.
Now looking at your upload I don't know exactly what you are after. Why can't you just submit a grayscale copy of the elevations right off that nice model you have? You can adjust the tone as needed.
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well, easily if you know how I guess. I use the group to component plugin found here to change them to components, then make my changes to the tiles.
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29462
Which the changes I make to it is to copy the end geometry down the length of the tile at length and then make that another component and then copy it down the length of the roof.
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lickity split...
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How did I miss that plugin...... for 4 years?. Have to try it out.
Thank you Kristoff and special thanks, as always, to plug- in authors. -
Thanks PBACOT, I came to the same conclusion of using a grayscale. Unfortunately, the Art Jury down here wants only straight line drawings, no shading or shadows. I'm pretty resigned now to stick with ACAD for submittals to this Agency, and continue learning and using LO for client presentation work.
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That's odd. I guess the art jury was fooled by pretty pictures in the past!
I see this often, instead of a minimum standard for submittals (required info and drawings) the planning department and board have nothing better to do than tell architects how to do their work. They go so far as requiring --then haggling over--- paint manufacturer and chip number when we all know it's rarely that exact color when it finally gets painted.
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