How much would you Pay? To improve SketchUp
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I'm already like $1200 in at this point... I'd pay another $500. wait. that's not enough for a full license as is. well I guess you see my point.
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I think this question is a bit reversed.
SketchUp will never be able to do everything everyone wants.Maybe a better question would be to make a list of the most wished features and set a price on them?
What would you be willing to pay extra for feature X?Not that I like that approach either.
Personally I'm gonna wait until v2014. Hopefully it will finally have something in it to convince my boss to upgrade...
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I am always surprising for break to upgrade or not for a professional using !
What is the % of this price of this update / against Pro projects over a year?
Seems it's peanuts! It's not a shoes' price!
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It's not just one seat you know...
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ok, now I see better the little problem!
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@pixero said:
It's not just one seat you know...
Exactly! Many practices are slow to spend unless they see major productivity improvements.
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@arklandesign said:
@slbaumgartner said:
At the opposite end of the spectrum, I've often wondered why Trimble doesn't introduce a mid-price version, for example SketchUp pro without Layout and Style Builder. If even a small fraction of the free/Make users chose to upgrade to this product, it would be a substantial amount of income.
I doubt that many more licenses would convert to pro, simply for a lower price by losing Layout. Sketchup is already cheap at $600. Yes, I know in some parts of the world that is a huge amount of money but layout is a HUGE part of SketchUp and a part that I really hope continues to evolve.
I respectfully disagree. I very much doubt that many current users of free/Make will spring for the current price, even if it is a bargain compared to other similar products. They wouldn't buy any of those other products either! But I believe that a significant portion of them would pay a modest amount to get the features that are disabled to create free/Make out of Pro (I would). You have to keep in mind that most of these people are non-professionals who don't need to make formal, architectural-grade documents for clients using Layout, nor are they artists who want to do esthetic presentations by creating their own styles. So, Layout or Style Builder may be huge to you, but it is largely irrelevant to these people. And one way to provide a middle-priced product would be to unbundle these items, which are effectively separate applications in the first place. Even if a small fraction of the free/Make users buy in, something is always greater than nothing; it would be a source of new revenue for Trimble.
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@arcad-uk said:
If I wanted super pro now then I would be looking at other products. Trimble aren't going to make the major changes you are looking for any time soon. They are well placed in the market without risking competition from more adept or specialised software by raising their price.
Apologies for missing your post. I just don't see how some of the frequently requested improvements can be attained with only the $95 yearly upgrade. Perhaps some of them can and I'm hoping the next release is a major improvement on many fronts. I agree that SketchUp's success in becoming an industry standard is twofold: Its really easy to learn and it is inexpensive. A winning combination no doubt.So Yes Trimble is unlikely to mess with this winning combination, but i still suspect that they have long term plans that will significantly improve it.
@slbaumgartner said:
But I believe that a significant portion of them would pay a modest amount to get the features that are disabled to create free/Make out of Pro (I would). You have to keep in mind that most of these people are non-professionals who don't need to make formal, architectural-grade documents for clients using Layout, nor are they artists who want to do esthetic presentations by creating their own styles. So, Layout or Style Builder may be huge to you, but it is largely irrelevant to these people. And one way to provide a middle-priced product would be to unbundle these items, which are effectively separate applications in the first place. Even if a small fraction of the free/Make users buy in, something is always greater than nothing; it would be a source of new revenue for Trimble.
On reflection you are right. There are certainly 2/3rds more casual users than Pro users and I guess most have little use for Layout...which is a shame as it really is a great presentation tool and for the most part under utilized by the design industry.
Hopefully that too will change overtime.
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@arklandesign said:
So Yes Trimble is unlikely to mess with this winning combination, but i still suspect that they have long term plans that will significantly improve it.
And there you have it in a nut shell. A popular product at the right price, a revenue stream from Pro upgraders and a slow release of features that keeps people wanting more. I've have SuperPro on my hard drive, in my case ArchiCAD, but for now I prefer SU and will tough it out with finger's crossed for accelerated development under Trimble of evolutionary workflow functions rather than a myriad bloatware commands.
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@arklandesign said:
There are certainly 2/3rds more casual users than Pro users and I guess most have little use for Layout...
yes, and there are Pro users too, who have no use at all for layout... (ME!)
@unknownuser said:
I am always surprising for break to upgrade or not for a professional using !
What is the % of this price of this update / against Pro projects over a year?
Seems it's peanuts! It's not a shoes' price!
Maybe... but why should i update, if the new version gives me NO improvement?
Ok maybe the toolbar problem, that should have been fixed already years ago... -
I'm glad that Trimble didn't go to a subscription model ala Adobe CS, but re: this thread, I'll vote for a fully capable SketchUp as a standalone offering. If it can stay under $200.00, there'd be more than a few who upgrade from 'Make'.
I'd go a little further; If one has a Pro license, additional 'full' SU could be $100. per seat.
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What if there was no free version and the whole package was $200.00 (except a free educational version) increasing @ 10 percent per year for R&D?
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