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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
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      Nice work, Mike. Now we'll work on texturing so you don't have those cross-grained posts which wouldn't be very strong.

      That step at the top might be an inch or two taller than allowed by code. πŸ˜‰

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        mikedd
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        @dave r said:

        Nice work, Mike. Now we'll work on texturing so you don't have those cross-grained posts which wouldn't be very strong.

        That step at the top might be an inch or two taller than allowed by code. πŸ˜‰

        Yeah, I tested several textures and some from Kerkythea but that was the best I could come up with. I saw a deck and it was textured really good.

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          I think the key thing is to apply the materials correctly. I did a couple of tutorials you might find useful here and here.

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            @dave r said:

            That step at the top might be an inch or two taller than allowed by code. πŸ˜‰

            Which step are you referring to?

            I didn't get the job, I guess I wasn't fast enough at submitting my sketchup images with the price to the customer.

            She went with a different guy. He is using those concrete piers to hold the posts up and they are just laid flat on the ground with 4 x 4's stuck in them. I think the whole thing will just sink into the ground.

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            Thanks, I'll take a look at your tutorial. Anyhow I did get the kids stair job, I'm just about to start on it. I believe the Sketchup images really helped to get the job. I just need to get better and faster with Sketchup to be able to submit the prices quicker.

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
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              I was referring to the step down at the top. πŸ˜„

              You may be right about those concrete piers. I have a yard shed sitting on them but I used 21 of them and it works fine. Under about 2 inches of top soil it is all rock anyway.

              As for getting faster, I would suggest that you worry less about making renders and just get the project drawn. In my experience I find that initial proposals can be quite sketchy--in fact I've created some sketchy line styles I use for proposals. I don't give the client a ton of info up front just to make sure we're on the same page. If the client decides to go with someone else, they don't get all of my design work to pass on. As the design gets closer to finalized, I use a tighter line style. I rarely use rendered images for client projects and especially tend to avoid wood grain textures because it is almost impossible to match the appearance of the final piece of furniture and I don't want to set the client up for disappointment.


              http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8088/8482541917_6c9f2e0e1a_z.jpg

              This is an image I did for a final proposal package. I did do a render for this one but it was only a clay render with several overlays for lines and the sketchy shadows. All in all, the image creation for this one was less than 8 minutes.

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                mikedd
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                @dave r said:

                I was referring to the step down at the top. πŸ˜„

                The little step near the wheelchair is just for the transition onto the concrete pad.

                I know some codes allow for them to be used. The wheelchair ramp should be on concrete that is down below 42 inch because that is where the frost level cannot force the concrete upwards.

                Wow 8 minutes I wish I was so fast. I like the clay render idea. I always think if I go to the trouble of making a drawing that the customer can use it to get estimates from other contractors. I think even with a copyright notice won't change things.

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  I was just joking about the step at the top down to the ground.

                  I like to use the clay render to get soft shadows. Sometimes I will make clay renders when there are lights included such as in this image.

                  http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8379/8508948316_aa811cb5d2_z.jpg

                  The materials such as they are come entirely from an image export direct from SU.

                  I'm just not that interested in trying to make my models look like photographs.

                  Your point about copyrights and so on is well taken. I purposely limit the amount of info I provide in proposals expecting the client will probably shop the design around. I don't mind the competition but I don't feel the need to do all the work for the competitor.

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                  • BoxB Offline
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                    Wheelchair ramp to nowhere, a ramp for paraplegic lemmings perhaps.

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                    • M Offline
                      mikedd
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                      @dave r said:

                      I was just joking about the step at the top down to the ground.
                      Oh I see 🀣

                      Yep I see what you mean, make a sketch and someone else comes along and says I can do it for 10% cheaper- job gone.

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                        @box said:

                        Wheelchair ramp to nowhere, a ramp for paraplegic lemmings perhaps.

                        Yep you go up the ramp as fast as you can and straight into a swimming pool πŸ˜†

                        I was thinking about modeling the house from Google street view and king of lowering its opacity so that the ramp stood out more than the house but like Dave says you can go too far with the drawing especially when you don't get the job.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          Actually, for something like your ramp I might have modeled a bit of the house for context. No textures and probably a different line style for those edges but that would help to make the size of the ramp understandable.

                          Oh well, on to the next project for you now.

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