Sketchup Make Questions
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Out of curiosity I downloaded and installed Sketchup Make. On running it there is a message says I can have 8 hours of usage and that amount decreases while the software is in use.
I'm not sure if that means after using it for 8 hours it stops working entirely... or just some portion of it stops working... or they're just pullin my leg, that I can continue to use it but am constrained by the EULA as to what I can do with it.
Which is it?
Second question, it is pretty obvious that Trimble's EULA requires commercial use to be done w/ the Pro version... having spent real money to buy SU I can understand that they want real money in return whenever they can. My question is about non-commercial use: If I understand them correctly they're saying, essentially, that no vertices and UV coordinates originally placed in SU Make can be made available to anyone else under any circumstances. No export to another format for 3d printing by a service bureau, for freeware game content when played by others, not even a printed page handed to your wife, nothing. Rather constraining. OR, alternatively, are they saying the SU Make user cannot make available to anyone else by any means any .skp file produced by SU Make? Or something in between that can only be guessed at?
Anyone know which interpretation is correct?
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@genma saotome said:
No export to another format for 3d printing by a service bureau, for freeware game content when played by others, not even a printed page handed to your wife, nothing. Rather constraining. OR, alternatively, are they saying the SU Make user cannot make available to anyone else by any means any .skp file produced by SU Make? Or something in between that can only be guessed at?
none of the above are breaking the agreement..
suMake can't be used for commercial use.. the simplest way to put that is if you are making money off the drawings created in sketchup then trimble wants their cut via your suPro purchase/license
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@genma saotome said:
Out of curiosity I downloaded and installed Sketchup Make. On running it there is a message says I can have 8 hours of usage and that amount decreases while the software is in use.
I'm not sure if that means after using it for 8 hours it stops working entirely... or just some portion of it stops working... or they're just pullin my leg, that I can continue to use it but am constrained by the EULA as to what I can do with it.
Which is it?
A freshly installed SU Make is also a Pro Trial (you must have got LayOuzt and Style Builder, too). When it expires, it will revert back to the functionalities of the free software.
@unknownuser said:
Second question, it is pretty obvious that Trimble's EULA requires commercial use to be done w/ the Pro version... having spent real money to buy SU I can understand that they want real money in return whenever they can. My question is about non-commercial use: If I understand them correctly they're saying, essentially, that no vertices and UV coordinates originally placed in SU Make can be made available to anyone else under any circumstances. No export to another format for 3d printing by a service bureau, for freeware game content when played by others, not even a printed page handed to your wife, nothing. Rather constraining. OR, alternatively, are they saying the SU Make user cannot make available to anyone else by any means any .skp file produced by SU Make? Or something in between that can only be guessed at?
Anyone know which interpretation is correct?
Not, this is not correct - but what Jeff says: you cannot use it for making money. That simple. If this was the case, they should also only allow uploading (read: sharing) models to the warehouse from the Pro version, right? Or completely disable printing or exporting stills and animation.
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Here's the phrase that caught my eye:
"Non-commercial use means: you may not sell, rent, lease or lend the output of the Software or the Services".
"The output" of the software is not defined but common sense suggests, at a minimum, that it includes the .skp file. A strict interpretation would include images as well as any exported data w/o regard to format. Output is, loosely speaking, everything that the software produces as a result of the end users mousing and keyboarding: the xyz data for the vertices and the UV data for the textures.
I can see from a purely practical perspective that Trimble won't care about each and every situation and is more likely to be upset from a gross violation of the requirements for commercial use... but as I said in my basenote, it reads as if nothing at all can be shared by the free version of the software. and that IF that is correct and if you do want to share the output, then you must use the commercial version. Which seems rather "tight".
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@genma saotome said:
"Non-commercial use means: you may not sell, rent, lease or lend the output of the Software or the Services".
that's just lawyerspeak and they're covering all bases with the wording.. it's protecting against this architect guy:
"well mr.judge, i didn't sell the prints to the client.. i simply lent them the prints but they gave them back to me"notice it doesn't say "give"... a bank will loan you money but they sure as (explicative of your choice) won't give you money..
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Of course you can share the output freely. "Sell, rent, lease or lend" means for profit; money or other exchange of goods. So if you are a spaceship designer and wish to boast with your renders in the gallery section, please, continue doing so.
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