Mon$anto vs. Mother Earth
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Making tinfoil hat comments on this subject suggest to me that, like an unfortunate majority of Americans, you've made no effort to understand the issues.
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nah I don't need to...we leave that to the whiney EUROPEAN experts on all topics like yourself.
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Maybe Monsanto is pushing the envelope a bit. Maybe companies like them shouldn't exist. Maybe we should go back to the early 1930s with 20-30 bushel/acre corn yields instead of the current 130-140 bushels. The US can keep all of its crops instead of producing large quantities to give to other countries. And we can go back to eating fresh tomatoes only in the summer when they can be picked from your local garden. We can stop eating foods we can't grow in our own gardens and we can have food prices that will allow only the wealthy to eat if you don't grow it yourself.
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Nice to see the world not letting these scumbags take over the food basket.
Ireland, Hungary, Russia, Peru, India, South Africa, France, Japan, Egypt and Switzerland have all banned Monsanto.
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Monsanto is headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri, in the United States, and has locations in multiple locations around the world. The locations are variously administrative and sales offices, manufacturing plants, seed production facilities, research centers, and learning centers – all part of the corporate focus on agriculture and supporting farmers.
Monsanto has various facilities located in: Canada, Guatemala, Mexico, Puerto Rico, USA, Argentina, Brazil, Chili, Columbia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay, Albania,Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, UK, Israel, Australia, Bangladesh, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Pakistan, Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Thailand, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Algeria, Kenya, Malawi, Morocco, Senegal, South Africa, Zimbabwe.
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@mics_54 said:
Monsanto is headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri, in the United States, and has locations in multiple locations around the world. The locations are variously administrative and sales offices, manufacturing plants, seed production facilities, research centers, and learning centers – all part of the corporate focus on agriculture and supporting farmers.
Monsanto has various facilities located in: Canada, Guatemala, Mexico, Puerto Rico, USA, Argentina, Brazil, Chili, Columbia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay, Albania,Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, UK, Israel, Australia, Bangladesh, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Pakistan, Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Thailand, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Algeria, Kenya, Malawi, Morocco, Senegal, South Africa, Zimbabwe.
Thanks for the advert, but was there a point?
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It's called a DIALOGUE...perhaps you prefer something else?
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and this is called video.
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Before engaging in a debate on issues that should be beyond one's personal politics lets at least agree on some facts.
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That's your argument? I expected a scientist or a doctor or at least an adult. Being 11 and able to deliver an oration is impressive but hardly what I would call convincing in this particular case.
But...I can see how the EMO team would embrace it.
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Thanks Pete for some excellent contributions and for proving to me that I was correct using the term "an unfortunate majority of" rather than "all".
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The doctor presenting this science isn't 11 and the reading may be too long and boring but if you DO entertain educated opinions you might find it interesting.
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The unfortunate part of this issue is when you understand the political divide in the USA, many folks will support stuff that they probably disagree with if the other side does not. So lets say the liberals oppose Monsanto then the conservatives will embrace them, support them and even pass legislation to empower them, next the church will give sermons that Monsanto is doing gods work.
We also do not let facts get in the way of a good debate as facts just stifle hyperbole rhetoric, see last election cycle for when facts died by the hands of bullshit.
You also must understand that the majority of this country believe the earth is 6000 years old, global climate change is a hoax and that homosexuality is a choice, so arguing with them on an issue like this is kinda pointless as they believe big business can do no wrong and if it's making money or gaining American control over the world it must be good and right.
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This isn't a political issue...It's a science issue. You present evidence from an 11 yr old with basic speaking skills and a coloring book web page created by a people that sell dietary products.
You project your own motives on others and build strawmen based on half truths gained from a cursory examination of evidence that fits your perception of anything representing a corporation...why? Because that's your understanding of political division.
You begin every argument with a presupposition which automatically places any contradiction in the realm of religion, conservatism or just ignorance. That's because you are intolerant of anyone that has a viewpoint that varies from yours.global moderator are two words I just don't see appropriate in your case...as you are neither.
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@unknownuser said:
global moderator are two words I just don't see appropriate in your case...as you are neither.
This is the corner bar by the way, I also do not moderate your opinion I moderate mostly spammers, scammers and move stuff to the right section when posted incorrectly. Nice try on the whole moderator thing, I see you are heading to the personal, play the ball and not the person mate. And because I am a moderator, does that mean I'm not entitled to an opinion?
Hannity of Fox news started the whole "strawman" thing last year, nice to see his "wisdom' was not lost on you.
@unknownuser said:
This isn't a political issue...It's a science issue.
That is funny, I bet you use that line for the Global climate change debate too.
@unknownuser said:
You present evidence from an 11 yr old with basic speaking skills and a coloring book web page created by a people that sell dietary products.
That was just a video about a kid who gets it, and by the way the easy to read coloring book style website is for your folks sake, just trying to make it as easy to understand as possible, facts can be confusing to some.
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That's because you are intolerant of anyone that has a viewpoint that varies from yours.
Nah, I am tolerant, I live in the middle of ignorance called Texas, I'm just vocal.
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The only thing you know about me is that I use this website, profess US exceptionalism and am willing to debate with people on current and past events...
yet you seem to be inclined to attribute various character traits arbitrarily upon members of this forum for the mere fact that they commented on a subject concerning GMOs. In the last three posts you've concluded that I am religious, conservative, anti homosexual, watch or listen to Hannity....all of which may or may not be true...but you couldn't possibly know which because I've not commented on it.
What I know is...you didn't present any facts or assertions from other references claiming to be facts but then say "we should agree on a few facts".
The only assertion you've made that might be factual...is that Monsanto is a corporation and they made lots of money....and I bet you aren't even sure of that. Oh but you'll claim you are!Did you even read the doctors blog on GMOs and why he is skeptical of the data in the studies in question? Did the big words confuse you? Were the colors too bland?
global climate change???? Are you going to wave the racism flag next?
Oblamer was just on tv using the "it's not about politics" line on the "gun violence issue"
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@unknownuser said:
Oblamer
Should that not be President "Oblamer"?
See right there you defined yourself, you drop those nuggets you get defined.
And I did read the "smack down" you posted, I bet you never understood a word of it.
Like in climate science there will always be a scientist that will soapbox against the facts, money does not only buy politicians, scientists like yachts too.@unknownuser said:
In the last three posts you've concluded that I am religious, conservative, anti homosexual, watch or listen to Hannity....all of which may or may not be true...but you couldn't possibly know which because I've not commented on it.
You do realize I was not talking about you per se? , however if it fits wear it with pride.
@unknownuser said:
global climate change???? Are you going to wave the racism flag next?
Give me an inch of reason to and I certainly will.
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Next step, monsanto will patent your ADN so you will have to pay for living and pay when you reproduce.
Do you want this?
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