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    Question:Commercial use of Sketchup free in a competition

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    • charly2008C Offline
      charly2008
      last edited by

      Hi Cotty,

      according to the terms of use, SketchUp Free can be used only in non-commercial areas.

      Charly

      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Charly, I still cannot see where this is written.

        Gai...

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        • pbacotP Offline
          pbacot
          last edited by

          Anyway: Is it commercial to win a prize? Does it matter if the design is judged on marketability?

          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            This has been debated endlessly...

            As far as I know the current Free version can be used for most things, provided that they are not damaging to Trimble, and they are are legal, decent etc.

            It's long been "recommended" that Pro is best suited for commercial use; but it doesn't specifically preclude Free for commercial use either.

            A competition is hardly 'commercial' anyway...

            Read this for comfort...
            http://www.sketchup.com/intl/en/download/license.html

            TIG

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Oh, if it is not in the competition terms, as for SketchUp license; yes, you can use the Free version for any commercial work.

              A bit of history:

              • When the first free version (Google SkertchUp 5 Free "Beta") came out,in the EULA they explicitly forbid commercial use.
              • When version 6 came out (the first version that was actually the "same" but the Pro with additional features), they explicitly allowed commercial use of the Free version.
              • Since version 7 (and the move of the whole support documentation to Google and such), this explicit permission has been dropped but no explicit ban has been (re-)introduced either.
                So they try to make free users "hang" now in uncertainty - but if you consider the principle that "what is not forbidden, is allowed", you can still use SU Free for commercial purposes.

              Now Google (and any Google employees) have never gone so far to actually "interpret" these two sections. Probably (no, 'certainly') employees were forbidden to say anything. They have always said "if you have doubts, ask a lawyer".

              But this is clear IMO (at least as much as mud). I am a lawyer, after all. 😒

              Gai...

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              • charly2008C Offline
                charly2008
                last edited by

                Hi TIG, Gaieus,

                Gaieus, the first thing I must say you look good on the new avatar.

                thanks for your answers. A friend of mine asked me that question. I also read the previous thread on this subject and I have read the license conditions four times but I wanted to be sure.

                Charly

                He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                • gillesG Offline
                  gilles
                  last edited by

                  So, save your model in V6 and everything is OK.

                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    If you were to use v8 Free and of course you then win the competition... do you really expect Trimble to get legalistic about a questionable interpretation of a 'terms of use'? They would have to have a need and a benefit...

                    Trimble would all but certainly embrace this 'free publicity' from your win... AND you'd probably be given a Pro license and other accolades too !

                    If [by some miscarriage of natural justice!] you didn't win... then as long as you don't bad-mouth SketchUp and blame it for your own dismal failure... then Trimble will almost certainly just ignore you...
                    What's the benefit to them, if they even noticed, of doing anything else ?

                    There is such a thing as 'vexatious litigation' after all...

                    TIG

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      @charly2008 said:

                      Gaieus, the first thing I must say you look good on the new avatar.
                      👍 😎

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                      • charly2008C Offline
                        charly2008
                        last edited by

                        Thanks again for your answers.

                        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          @cotty said:

                          @charly2008 said:

                          Gaieus, the first thing I must say you look good on the new avatar.
                          👍 😎

                          Looks a little like Frankenstein's monster...just sayin. (just add bolts)

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Use the free for the competition 🤓
                            If you win, you will need the Pro for make the real project! 😄

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • cottyC Offline
                              cotty
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                              @solo said:

                              @cotty said:

                              @charly2008 said:

                              Gaieus, the first thing I must say you look good on the new avatar.
                              👍 😎

                              Looks a little like Frankenstein's monster...just sayin. (just add bolts)

                              I've searched similar pictures with google, no Frankenstein there, but other well known people... 😆


                              frankenstein.jpg

                              my SketchUp gallery

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                Come on guys, stay on-topic! 😄

                                Gai...

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                                • StinkieS Offline
                                  Stinkie
                                  last edited by

                                  clears throat


                                  frankenstein-mask-1.jpg

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