A Thread for Fine Design
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Dale,
Perhaps you can answer this. I would not cavalierly combine art and design, though they work together. For your thread, certainly--but in terms of understanding? I have but a smattering of Art courses, so I only run around the edges of the big questions. Indecipherable perhaps but important to me nonetheless.
And this is a beautiful image and example of both in a way. Sorry but I can't totally separate the sensuality myself. (And how often in Art's history has classicism been used as an excuse to look at naked women?)
Peter
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Peter
I always appreciate your insights.
I probably should not have chose this image, as he does great landscape work as well, and does also photograph the male figure.
I think you use the correct term in "sensuality". This versus sexuality.
I have to run now, but will try to expand laterRegards
Dale
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Peter
You have touched on something I think that is worthy of discussion. I won't pretend I can give a finite answer.
I think maybe the best way to do this is to have a look at what some claim are separation points between art and design.Art Is expressive, Design is communication.
What is it we do when we sit with clients to begin the design of a residence (for example)? My approach is to try and coax out of them information about the way they live in order to give them a residence which is an "expression" of their lifestyle. This is of course a simplification.
But cozy for some would be:For others:
Whereas, if you have ever had the opportunity to stand in front of Picasso's Guernica, you can get the sense, even if you don't know anything about the painting, that it is communicating a great horror.
Art is Subjective, Design is Objective.
Art is interpretive, Design is understood.
To me these are only semantics, that are totally interchangeable.But, I respect your opinion, and if there are any others that feel I should keep Art out of the Fine Design thread, let me know, or at the very least give me your opinions as to what Art and Design are.
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I don't think you have to keep it out, I am just pondering the difference like you. I should answer later, as I have to get going now, so I'll think about it. Thanks for the reply! Peter
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'possible greenland' - 'inhabiting' by quarsoq tegnestue, clement & carlsen architects and tegnestuen vandkunsten
The project develops new visions for greenland's future, addressing the challenges and opportunities it faces as ice melts, vast mineral resources become accessible and new industries and urban cultures emerge.
image designboom
http://vimeo.com/user12262580/newarcticbuildingpractice
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stefanq
Thanks so much for this post.
What a refreshing concept. It is truly arctic with many Inuit influences.
Technically I would love to know more about the structure, and the ability of the polycarbonate to hold up under high UV, and snow loads.
Another thing that piqued my interest was the seaweed insulation. Will have to do a little digginf.
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Somebody said: "An artisan uses his hands, a craftsman (designer) uses his hands and his head, an artist uses his hands, his head and his heart.
That is pretty close for me.
I've been involved in the 'Art/Craft Debate' for years, ie: is it art or craft?
For me the difference often comes down to the makers intention.
I think that the very best design cannot help but be art as well. -
It looks like BMW are getting serious about producing an electric car and the BMW i3 Concept could be what we will eventually see in the showrooms.
While the upper glass doors look cool, I don't understand why they have them! Ito looks that its the small innovative car design firms that are still leading the way in eCar design but BMW have the cash to get things done ..... if they want to!
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@stefanq said:
'possible greenland' - 'inhabiting' by quarsoq tegnestue, clement & carlsen architects and tegnestuen vandkunsten
The project develops new visions for greenland's future, addressing the challenges and opportunities it faces as ice melts, vast mineral resources become accessible and new industries and urban cultures emerge.
image designboom
http://vimeo.com/user12262580/newarcticbuildingpracticeHad a look at the video, very informative indeed. I really like the flexible 'Paqibiq' concept and think such an idea could be utilized for other climate zones.
I've always been interested in the idea of a flexible house. My own house was designed for two adults and two kids but now its just occupied by two adults. It would be great if there where ways of modifying it cheaply to be more suited to its current usage.
Attached is a cross-section shot I grabbed from the video.
Mike
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Nice idea / design ...... however I think the product name might prove to be unfortunate ..... Wash It or Wa Shit
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Guys,
I always enjoy a visit and root around at the Solar Decathlon. There are always some great house designs to be seen in detail :thumb:
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I think this would have put a few plugins to the test if modeled>
Leaf House http://www.undercurrent-architects.com/projects/leaf-house-sydney-australia/
Some amazing photos herehttp://www.undercurrent-architects.com/leaf-house-by-marc-gerritsen/ -
Another Undercurrents Design
This really is a fascinating project constructed in a railway bridge arch.http://www.undercurrent-architects.com/projects/archway-studios-london-uk/ -
@mike lucey said:
It looks like BMW are getting serious about producing an electric car and the BMW i3 Concept could be what we will eventually see in the showrooms.
While the upper glass doors look cool, I don't understand why they have them!
To show off your legs obviously! Or perhaps to see curbs when parking.
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@roger said:
@mike lucey said:
It looks like BMW are getting serious about producing an electric car and the BMW i3 Concept could be what we will eventually see in the showrooms.
While the upper glass doors look cool, I don't understand why they have them!
To show off your legs obviously! Or perhaps to see curbs when parking.
They already have auto-tilting mirrors so you don't curb it
The later representations of the BMW i3/i8 have more typical looking doors. I think it's just a way of showing its construction/space available. Look at the "glass" boot, they've just done that to show much boot space you have if the fuel tank isn't there, I don't believe they are suggesting the doors will be glass.
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I was just thinking of 18 wheel truck that have glass on the bottom side of the passenger door so drivers can see cars passing in the mirror's blind spot. Didn't know about the BMW mirrors. Industrial design at work. You are probably right.
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This thread both inspires and saddens me.
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Designed on purpose or just natural design?
Tunnel of Love - Kleven, Ukraine.
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Roger and Oli, I think Beemers are cool. I've always had a preference from them over Mercs. I think the styles cues for Mercs over the past few years is a downer. They are starting to look 'girlie'
Think I've found my ideal electric vehicle, it meets my price range and required practicality level. When I first saw the Zümaround, I thought, Mmmmm don't know about that ..... its a bloody scooter and scooters are for kids ...... but then again. I'm just a big kid! ..... so maybe ...'
The more I read about the Zümaround and researched what you are actually able to do with scooters, the more it made sense. For example, I could 'scoot' on the footpath (sidewalk) and go places even bikes aren't allowed let alone cars. It looks sturdy / robust enough to scoot on the road with its 20" wheels, no problems with potholes!
Best of all is the price $1250. This is excellent compared to other opinions. The build quality looks good, not 'girlie' .... essential! Also its made in Canada!
To make the Zümaround ideal for my urban travels I would need a handlebar Pannier of a decent size and possibly some kind of a carrier / shelf over the rear wheel AND a very light-weight windshield with part over hood to protect me from the Irish mist that we have over here.
Mike
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