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    • bazB Offline
      baz
      last edited by

      I like em both. But I read 'Richard Jeffrey i Creative'.
      As in 'I am creative' which you are, but wouldn't a forward slash or dot be better?

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      • RichardR Offline
        Richard
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        Thanks Cotty and Barry, Thats a cool link for Formulor! Even if for just going through all the material properties!

        @ Baz, mate I'll see what I can do with that separator, I'm inclined to leave it though might extend it or replace with a lighter / longer line. Its something I commonly use as a divider as a slash alawys looks out of place it text now with such overuse in links! Thanks though I can certainly see your point. Like you said a dot might well be the go!

        BTW there isn't a choice between the two I'm doing both and maybe a third!

        [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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        • marked001M Offline
          marked001
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          At one point, I was planning on using a similar material for cards, Richard. I did get a test run done where they used an image and it looked 'ok' but not as good as the real thing.

          doing the white on chipboard shouldnt be an issue if its screen printed. obviously, these guys are in the states but maybe you can find someplace down under with a similar process.. http://www.mamas-sauce.com/

          and, for the record, i dig the black one.

          http://www.revision21vis.com

          instagram: revi21on

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          • KrisidiousK Offline
            Krisidious
            last edited by

            #1

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            • R Offline
              Roger
              last edited by

              When you approach a woman in a saloon, do you slap your card on the bar and circle "built" with a marker?

              I like "1" the best, but with the black back, a potential client can't make a note on the back of the card.

              http://www.azcreative.com

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              • KrisidiousK Offline
                Krisidious
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                do you guys remember the cd-rom cards? I thought they would be huge... Never materialized.

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                • RichardR Offline
                  Richard
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                  Thanks guys for the feedback, and the link Jason, it looks like I will have to go the fake route as I cant seem to find anyone who can print white, yet it can be done as it is with packaging now on mass! Roger, you have to leave them to find somethings out the hard way!

                  I remember the CD cards, a collegue of mine had to replace a clients drive as the cards could easily slip through the CD drawer and mash it! Never gave out another!

                  [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                  • bazB Offline
                    baz
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                    Ok, I'm getting picky now. I haven't got that typeface so I had to fudge it, but typography is all about white space, or in this case black space.
                    Can you see the difference?

                    rich-logo.png

                    I could tweak it further if I had the typeface.

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                    • bazB Offline
                      baz
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                      rich-logo-with hammer.png
                      Sorry, couldn't resist....

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                      • bazB Offline
                        baz
                        last edited by

                        @richard said:

                        @ Baz, mate I'll see what I can do with that separator, I'm inclined to leave it though might extend it or replace with a lighter / longer line. Its something I commonly use as a divider as a slash alawys looks out of place it text now with such overuse in links! Thanks though I can certainly see your point. Like you said a dot might well be the go!

                        Agree with you about the slash, but forget the dot, too naff. I reckon use a black line, same weight, on both. Will look especially good on the second one.
                        baz

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                        • daleD Offline
                          dale
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                          Richard
                          You are the Master of understatement.
                          I'd love to clone your gene that resists embellishment, a bane to most of us.

                          Cards are interesting, I believe they appeared at first in France, mostly as a visitor announcement, and then moved into use by businesses as a form of advertising.
                          Probably now they have become more commonplace as a tool to get recipients to your website, which has no doubt become the centre piece in most marketing strategies.
                          But they really are the "Branding" face of most small businesses.
                          I'd love to hear your experiences as one who works in this field Richard.

                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                          • R Offline
                            Roger
                            last edited by

                            If you want a clean white on colored stock, you need to go to foil stamping, but you pay a premium for that. Also a tag line or differentiator is a good thing to set in your audience's mind. IE BUILT - Architecture that endures.

                            http://www.azcreative.com

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                            • S Offline
                              sonder
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                              I like them both, although if you go for the first one, I would change the color of the font on the black side to sepia, and reverse on the sepia side, similar to the concept on the white card.

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Nº1 is by far the best.
                                Just replace the awkward | with a simple · and it's good-to-go 😉

                                TIG

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                                • bazB Offline
                                  baz
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                                  Richard has mentioned a couple of times that that it's not 'either/or'.
                                  He intends to use them both for different purposes.

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                                  • C Offline
                                    Clarencecat
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi
                                    if you want to print white on card search for 'foil blocking' or 'gold blocking' - any printer will point you in the right direction
                                    Ed

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                                    • utilerU Offline
                                      utiler
                                      last edited by

                                      Rich, a few comments...

                                      1. The seperator - I do the same thing. To get more emphasis from it just make it bold and maybe a size or two larger...
                                      2. First one is my pick; not a big fan of a full black card. Why? I dunno.... there's just something about people who have black cars, where black, etc.... 😉
                                      3. The back of the card; is it white? It should be I reckon to write down that girls' number...
                                      4. And just go for a standard finish. Nothing worst than trying to write on a glossy card and it smudges....

                                      👍

                                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                      • RichardR Offline
                                        Richard
                                        last edited by

                                        Wow, Thank you, thank you, thank you all!!!! Some great feedback! Thanks especially to you Barry for coming back and putting a few more two cents in!

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Ok, I'm getting picky now. I haven't got that typeface so I had to fudge it, but typography is all about white space, or in this case black space.
                                        Can you see the difference?

                                        Barry in regards to the letter spacing, the font is Helvetica LT Std (Extra compressed) - I actually have spaced it out over the default but admittedly I've probably pulled the T in to far, stretching it out further I found was tending to weaken it. Hey I do like your play with the T as a hammer! I used a Hammer as a T in an entry in a 99desgins comp recently - the first I'd entered and won it was pretty chuffed with that!

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                                        [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                        • RichardR Offline
                                          Richard
                                          last edited by

                                          I've just got to duck to a meeting then after will respond to the other replies! Thanks all!

                                          [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                          • RichardR Offline
                                            Richard
                                            last edited by

                                            @dale said:

                                            Richard
                                            You are the Master of understatement.
                                            I'd love to clone your gene that resists embellishment, a bane to most of us.

                                            Cards are interesting, I believe they appeared at first in France, mostly as a visitor announcement, and then moved into use by businesses as a form of advertising.
                                            Probably now they have become more commonplace as a tool to get recipients to your website, which has no doubt become the centre piece in most marketing strategies.
                                            But they really are the "Branding" face of most small businesses.
                                            I'd love to hear your experiences as one who works in this field Richard.

                                            Thanks Dale, mate I love the points Deiter Rams (designer for BRAUN) put down about design and one inparticular "Design as little as possible". I tend to go the other way at the start though and then take away until I have the minimum!

                                            Yeah cards are a funny thing, they can make or break. How often have we picked up a card and judged a firm or person on the quality or the contained graphic or information - part the reason I'm wanting more than one card. One to give some hint at what I do and the other so it can be furnished toward any type of work.

                                            The last card I had was square and printed with 3 different colour face options, it allowed me to hand out all 3 at most meetings and always created some interest and comment. "Hmmm? nice cards!". It certainly worked! In fact a massive job came along the other week from exactly that - the chap years later called about a massive project and commented that he had kept my card because he liked it and it was the only way he had even remembered my name!

                                            [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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