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      bjornkn
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      What is the current options for showing interactive 3D objects in a browser?
      No Java, plugins or Flash, as this (unfortunately) have to run also on iPads etc, if possible.
      The alternative is to just make object-movies, but I would really prefer a real 3D viewer.

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        thomthom
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        WebGL
        http://get.webgl.org/

        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          bjornkn
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          @thomthom said:

          WebGL
          http://get.webgl.org/

          Thanks ๐Ÿ˜„
          However, when I followed that link I was met with a message: 'Oh no! We are sorry, but your browser does not seem to support WebGL.' Followed by a link to install an Opera 12 alpha version.
          Looks like this may be the future, but maybe not quite yet?
          This is for a set of web exhibitions targeted at an archeological audience, and I think it will have to run on slightly older browsers too.

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          • dukejazzD
            dukejazz
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            On pc you install a machine type of a language to run a 3d viewer
            What languages dose the ipad allow.
            None of the browser have 3d that I know of.
            I wrong again
            OH!
            WOW!
            pic_0118.jpg
            pic_0119.jpg

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            • thomthomT
              thomthom
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              It requires modern browsers, yes. But it's the only thing that doesn't require plugins. And I think the pads and smart phones support it.

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                bjornkn
                last edited by

                OK.
                So how do you get textured objects from SU into WebGL then?

                And for 3D plugins - what is the state of the art, or most promising format/plugin today?
                Is VET still alive?
                Wirefusion looks good too, but is using Java.

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                • thomthomT
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  If you want SketchUp models on a website you can look into LightUp. It features web-plugin viewer. And you can even get more effects than normal SketchUp.

                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    bjornkn
                    last edited by

                    Thanks again ๐Ÿ˜„
                    LightUp looks nice, but unfortunately no Opera support..
                    Oh I miss VRML!

                    Looks like it has to be object-movies this time.
                    But maybe WebGL in a year or two?

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                    • dukejazzD
                      dukejazz
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                      pic_0018.jpg
                      ๐Ÿค“ PC
                      Vivaty viewer/ flux viewer
                      Download Vivaty Studio to interactively and graphically create your X3D world on your PC.
                      http://www.web3d.org/realtime-3d/x3d-vrml/x3d-vrml-most-widely-used-3d-formats
                      X3D & VRML,
                      Scripting - Java no
                      or

                      Cortona 3d viewer
                      http://www.cortona3d.com/Products/Viewer/Cortona-3D-Viewer.aspx
                      Operating system:
                      Windows XP 32-bit, Service Pack 3;
                      Windows 7 32-bit or 64-bit.
                      Web browser:
                      Internet Explorer 8.0 or a later version;
                      Mozilla Firefox 4.0 or a later version; WebGL
                      Google Chrome 10 or a later version; WebGL
                      Opera 11 or a later version;
                      Safari 5 or a later version.
                      Scripting - Java yes

                      ๐Ÿ˜ณ pad?

                      ๐Ÿ˜ณ Mac?

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                        bjornkn
                        last edited by

                        Promising ๐Ÿ˜„

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                          museummaker
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                          p3D?

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                            bjornkn
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            p3D?

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                            (p3d.in)

                            Only got:
                            "Sorry, but your browser is not supported" ๐Ÿ˜ž (WebGL) (My Opera is not v12alpha)

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                            • soloS
                              solo
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                              I believe the person to ask is Liam Keating (one of the users on SCF) he works for Wired magazine's iPad publication and he does interactive objects. I do know that he has in the past gotten me involved but that required 36 framed renders to achieve the desired rotation of an object, I'm not sure if this is the only way to do it or they just wanted the object to be rendered (active reflections, etc)

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              • Mike LuceyM
                                Mike Lucey
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                                @bjornkn said:

                                @unknownuser said:

                                p3D?

                                Link Preview Image
                                BunnyCDN - Node LA1-907

                                favicon

                                (p3d.in)

                                Only got:
                                "Sorry, but your browser is not supported" ๐Ÿ˜ž (WebGL) (My Opera is not v12alpha)

                                Bjรธrn,

                                I also use Opera 11.61. To check out P3D, I downloaded Opera Next from here, http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ It does not overwrite Opera 11 and can be run separately. The WebGL images loaded / worked perfectly ๐Ÿ‘

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                                  bjornkn
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                                  @solo said:

                                  I believe the person to ask is Liam Keating (one of the users on SCF) he works for Wired magazine's iPad publication and he does interactive objects. I do know that he has in the past gotten me involved but that required 36 framed renders to achieve the desired rotation of an object, I'm not sure if this is the only way to do it or they just wanted the object to be rendered (active reflections, etc)

                                  That sounds like an object-movie, like this chair I rendered a couple of years ago for a guy in Sweden who makes great plugins for panorama viewers (he scaled it way too small though). http://wirestam.com/panos/Flash/vr360/vrtest2.html
                                  That one is Flash only, but such object-movies can be made with Javascript too, and probably html5? It is really just switching between a set of prerendered (or photographed) still frames, and doesn't need any 3D engine. It usually doesnt work well with bigger images though, and to get better views you really need to make multiple rows of images, which quickly adds up to a lot of frames.
                                  That is probably the solution I have to go for now, as real 3D doesn't yet seem to be possible without plugins/Java, or they require special hardware or software (like Opera alpha versions). This has to be viewable on as many platforms as possible, as it will only be a fairly small part of a larger archeological web exhibitions.

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                                    bjornkn
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                                    @mike lucey said:

                                    Bjรธrn,

                                    I also use Opera 11.61. To check out P3D, I downloaded Opera Next from here, http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ It does not overwrite Opera 11 and can be run separately. The WebGL images loaded / worked perfectly ๐Ÿ‘

                                    Nice to know that it doesn't overwrite Opera 11. Maybe I should give it a try then, although it looks like I'll have to make object-movies for this project, to make it more widely viewable.

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