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    Dave R
    last edited by 3 Mar 2012, 14:57

    That old tractor is very cool. I'd love to have one. This winter it would sure churn up the mud, though.

    Eric, that guy hanging from the beam looks like an early PhotoShop job. 😉

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      michaliszissiou
      last edited by 3 Mar 2012, 17:47

      Lovely tractor
      Eric, both photos look like an early Ps work.
      The first one, well known photo, it's obviously a montage. See environment around figures.
      I won't discuss on the second one. Obviously a montage, once again.

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        boofredlay
        last edited by 4 Mar 2012, 06:13

        I am not so quick to discount those images. I can't say for sure about the officer hanging on but surely the one by Charles Ebbets is authentic.

        @unknownuser said:

        This 1932 photo by fearless photographer Charles C. Ebbets shows workmen eating lunch on the 69th floor of the GE Building during the construction of Rockefeller Center. The photo was originally published in the New York Herald Tribune. Notice that the worker on the far right is holding what looks like a liquor flask. I guess it gets chilly up there.

        @unknownuser said:

        Were these men, whose feet were dangling hundreds of feet above New York’s streets, out of their minds? Because, really, who will eat lunch on a hanging girder and, consequently, who would be courageous enough to take a picture during the Rockefeller Center’s construction – on the 69th floor?

        This legendary photograph which portrays 11 workers having a lunch break defines the career of an American photographer, Charles Ebbets. In 1932, Ebbets was the photographic director of the building’s construction. He took this famous photo in September of the same year and shortly after, it was published in the New York Herald Tribune.

        This became one of the photographs that changed the world. It was adopted by pop culture and has so many versions to date. Some of these were humorous renditions featuring Hollywood icons, the Muppets, and even the casts from F.R.I.E.N.D.S.

        Here are a couple more of Ebbets famous photos.

        http://www.wallpapersphotography.com/art-photography/lunch-atop-a-skyscraper/037.jpg

        http://www.terra.com.pe/addon/img/noticias/18d5e9a12-charles-ebbets-p.jpg

        http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oQunymQFGrM/SasmH2RUXRI/AAAAAAAAC0I/D5B0eNQhvs0/s1600/slide0009_image028.jpg

        http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oQunymQFGrM/Sasl4f4kPYI/AAAAAAAACz4/_r9agE1jGpE/s1600/slide0011_image032.jpg

        And the man himself.

        http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oQunymQFGrM/SaslFIR0FzI/AAAAAAAACy4/-XpABksAy6E/s1600/slide0016_image004.jpg

        Now this one for sure is faked 😄

        http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/lunchtime/lunch_atop_a_skyscraper-19.jpg

        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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          urgen
          last edited by 4 Mar 2012, 19:26

          ..... Harold Lloyd...😄
          [flash=600,400:l9pvexk4]http://www.youtube.com/v/Ik5ph6ChO9Q&feature=related[/flash:l9pvexk4]

          --pupil forever...------

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            thomthom
            last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 08:36

            I came across the LEGO variant a few weeks ago - found a high-res version which I'll make into an A2 print on aluminum. 😄

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              michaliszissiou
              last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 12:37

              Ebbets famous photos.
              I know, they may be authentic in some way, some of them.

              1. Can you please, explain the halo lighting around some figures? This indicates editing.
              2. In some of these photos, watch the DOF, inconsistency? Yeah, the front buildings are in focus, same the figures that are very close to camera.

              Anyway retro cool.
              My favorites


              RedSqlenintrotsky.jpg


              Soviet_leaders_Red_Square_Moscow_1919.jpg


              Voroshilov,_Molotov,_Stalin,_with_Nikolai_Yezhov.jpg

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                Dave R
                last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 13:00

                Keep in mind that in those days, the air in the cities was a whole lot thicker than it is these days. Lots of coal being burned and no regulations on pollution.

                Those images are on some larger format film--notice the camera in the hands of the photographer. Probably 4x5 or possibly a 5x7 camera. Hand holding a camera like that means he was probably not focusing it on his subjects but just setting the focus more by guess. He'd know the depth of field range for the aperture he's using and set the focus so his most distant subject is near the far end of the range. I expect the halo at the center of the images is probably due to issues with the lens, shutter and the aperture. A leaf shutter opens from the center outward and at high (relatively speaking) shutter speeds, the center of the image receives more light than the edges.

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                  michaliszissiou
                  last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 13:38

                  @Dave R
                  I love these old cameras, I know what you mean but this isn't the case.
                  There's a halo around the figures. Not an aperture neither a vignette effect. It's definitely a retouching. If it's a hoax, I can't be sure.

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                    andybot
                    last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 14:05

                    @michaliszissiou said:

                    @Dave R
                    I love these old cameras, I know what you mean but this isn't the case.
                    There's a halo around the figures. Not an aperture neither a vignette effect. It's definitely a retouching. If it's a hoax, I can't be sure.

                    It could also just be a darkroom thing - if the print was made by burning and dodging around the figures, the background around them would be blown out.

                    http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                      michaliszissiou
                      last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 16:53

                      See, on the last photo I posted, Lenin and Molotov. Around Molotov's figure there's a halo too. Very common on old photos. Adopted from oil painting technics.
                      However, you may think that it's another fake photo and you may be right. We weren't there. Photos aren't real documents, always, they never were. Long time before Ps.

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                        Daniel
                        last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 18:51

                        I did some reading up on "Lunch atop a Skyscraper," and it was interesting. The photographer wasn't identified until fairly recently. Although staged, the photo wasn't faked. The halo you see are actually clouds in the background, they are so high up. Also, unkown to viewers, there is a roof surface a few stories below, so if they fell they wouldn't have had too far to go.

                        I remember seeing film of steel workers on skyscrapers. It seemed to defy logic (and prudence) to be so high up and walking on such narrow steel beams, before the age of safety harnesses, but they did it.

                        My avatar is an anachronism.

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                          Daniel
                          last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 19:02

                          Michel, looking at the photos of Lenin with and without Molotov, what jumps out immediately is that the second image has less resolution, so it's hard to compare the two. It appears there is a lot of light reflecting off the river, and possibly off the white wall in the background. I wonder if what you are seeing as a halo is not a lot of reflected light behind the figure.

                          My avatar is an anachronism.

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                            michaliszissiou
                            last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 20:12

                            Daniel, not a halo, an editing again. I wonder if Molotov is a fake.
                            The scale of these figures is a bit... out of scale. I wonder.
                            Is there anything true on these photos?

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                              boofredlay
                              last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 20:46

                              Meanwhile, back on topic...

                              @unknownuser said:

                              The Douglas TB2D Skypirate was a torpedo bomber intended for service with the US Navy’s aircraft carriers. Two prototypes were completed, but the dedicated torpedo bomber was becoming an outdated concept and with the end of World War II, the type was no longer needed, resulting in the project’s cancellation.


                              D01.jpg


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                              D05.jpg

                              http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                Marian
                                last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 21:01

                                Neat! 😄

                                http://cdn3.retronaut.co/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/14-520x406.jpg

                                http://www.retronaut.co/2012/03/captured-killinger-and-freund-motorcyle-1945killinger-and-freund-motorcyle-1935/

                                http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                  andybot
                                  last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 21:02

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  The Douglas TB2D Skypirate was a torpedo bomber
                                  what's to distinguish this from other WWII planes? Just curious what you find retro cool about it. (looks sorta like the corsair)

                                  now that motorcycle - awesome!!

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                                    boofredlay
                                    last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 21:08

                                    The dual set of propellers caught my eye.

                                    http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                      andybot
                                      last edited by 5 Mar 2012, 21:12

                                      ah, that is peculiar, Perhaps a thrust issue. Wonder how many horsepower was under that cowl.

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                                        dale
                                        last edited by 6 Mar 2012, 14:12

                                        Do these still roam the streets?Screen shot 2012-03-06 at 6.10.21 AM.png

                                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                          dale
                                          last edited by 6 Mar 2012, 14:24

                                          Or these in the old mans shop.
                                          Rigid 😮


                                          Screen shot 2012-03-06 at 6.14.44 AM.png

                                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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