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  • J Offline
    Jim
    last edited by 20 Nov 2011, 21:32

    @chyn2000 said:

    irb(main):002:0> require 'D:\suext'

    You did it again.

    Use:

    require "D:/suext"

    
    irb(main);001;0> require 'C;\SX_Basics'
    LoadError; 127; The specified procedure could not be found.   - Init_C;\SX_Basics
    C;\SX_Basics.so
            from C;\SX_Basics.so
            from (irb);1
    irb(main);002;0> require 'C;/SX_Basics'
    => true
    irb(main);003;0>
    

    Hi

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      Jim
      last edited by 20 Nov 2011, 21:48

      Ok, I just built TBD's suext example using Visual Studio Express 2010.

      In order to get the extension to require properly, I had to use:

      require "SUExt" <-- note case

      require "suext" failed.

      Hi

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        chyn2000
        last edited by 21 Nov 2011, 01:41

        @jim said:

        Ok, I just built TBD's suext example using Visual Studio Express 2010.

        In order to get the extension to require properly, I had to use:

        require "SUExt" <-- note case

        require "suext" failed.

        Yep Jim. That was exactly it!

        Thanks everyone. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

        Actually, it occurs to me that we may want to start making a small library of math and geometry ruby extensions very targeted towards SU. Thoughts?

        -Chyn

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          thomthom
          last edited by 21 Nov 2011, 09:07

          @chyn2000 said:

          Actually, it occurs to me that we may want to start making a small library of math and geometry ruby extensions very targeted towards SU. Thoughts?

          Not a bad idea. I had plans of doing some bezier functions.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            Jim
            last edited by 22 Nov 2011, 22:40

            @chyn2000 said:

            Actually, it occurs to me that we may want to start making a small library of math and geometry ruby extensions very targeted towards SU. Thoughts?

            Maybe wrapping up an existing library for SketchUp/Ruby would be a way to go? Here's some interesting ones:

            [1] http://vcg.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page
            [2] http://www.cgal.org/
            [3] http://ptex.us/
            [4] http://code.google.com/p/ruby-sketchup-sdk/
            [5] http://www.visilibity.org/

            Hi

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              jefftrull
              last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 08:49

              I was so excited to discover that someone was building Sketchup extensions with Visual Studio 2010 - that's exactly what I need to do - unfortunately, after going through the whole process, I can't seem to successfully load the SX_HelloWorld module:

              
              require 'SX_HelloWorld'
              Error; #<LoadError; C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/SX_HelloWorld.so; 126; The specified module could not be found.   - C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/SX_HelloWorld.so>
              (eval)
              (eval);0
              
              

              Notice this is not a situation where the file is missing - that produces a similar but different error message.

              After some Googling it seemed like missing .so's are sometimes the culprit, so I tried copying over some from my Ruby build directory (win32ole.so and Win32API.so), but it didn't help. Finally I tried running Sketchup from the VS2010 command line shell - this resulted in the infamous "bugsplat".

              I'm at my wit's end here... any ideas?

              Thanks,
              Jeff
              PS: My Ruby install gives RUBY_PLATFORM=i386-mswin32_100, RUBY_VERSION=1.8.6; Sketchup gives RUBY_PLATFORM=i386-mswin32 and the same version

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                Dan Rathbun
                last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 19:53

                FYI: When require loads a shared object library file (and not a ruby script,)
                the require(filepath) method looks for a C function named:
                "Init_" + File.basename( filepath, File.extname(filepath) )
                and runs it after loading the shared library.

                This means that named C function must exist (even if it does nothing,) and must be named exactly as the file is named (CASE SENSITIVE.) If an enduser renames the so (or dll, dylib, etc.,) file later (including changing the case of any characters,) then loading the library file with require() will fail. (usually resulting in a "entry point not found" error.)

                I'm not here much anymore.

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                  jefftrull
                  last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 20:00

                  Thanks for the quick response! Unfortunately, I don't think that's the issue, for three reasons:

                  1. The error message is "The specified module could not be found", rather than "entry point not found"
                  2. I'm using the example file from bitbucket unchanged... the name of the relevant function there is "Init_SX_HelloWorld", vs filename "SX_HelloWorld.so"
                  3. I can use this module OK in Ruby standalone (whichever one I built with)

                  I do think it's got to be something simple... I just can't see what it might be. The error message isn't terribly helpful 😞

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                    Dan Rathbun
                    last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 20:04

                    BTW your on Windows 7 ??

                    Is the path:
                    %(#BF0080)["C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/SX_HelloWorld.so"]

                    and what is the result of (at the console):
                    puts $LOAD_PATH

                    I'm not here much anymore.

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                      jefftrull
                      last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 20:09

                      @dan rathbun said:

                      BTW your on Windows 7 ??

                      That's right, Windows 7 Professional SP1

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Is the path:
                      %(#BF0080)["C:/Program Files(x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/SX_HelloWorld.so"]

                      No, it's "C:/Program Files/Google/Google Sketchup 8/Plugins/SX_HelloWorld.so" (no "(x86)")

                      @unknownuser said:

                      and what is the result of (at the console):
                      puts $LOAD_PATH

                      
                      puts $LOAD_PATH
                      C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins
                      C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Tools
                      nil
                      
                      

                      Thanks!

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 20:45

                        @jefftrull said:

                        1. I can use this module OK in Ruby standalone

                        Hm... it works in IRB, but not SketchUp?

                        @jefftrull said:

                        (whichever one I built with)

                        Exactly what version of Ruby did you use to build the extension?
                        Also - did you remember to modify the config.h file as described in the README?

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 20:48

                          The error you report is mentioned in this article: http://apocryph.org/2007/06/16/totally_bullshit_ruby_extension_experience_windows/

                          However, I did not experience such error... not really sure what the difference is here...

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            Dan Rathbun
                            last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 21:01

                            @jefftrull said:

                            @dan rathbun said:

                            BTW your on Windows 7 ??

                            That's right, Windows 7 Professional SP1

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Is the path:
                            %(#BF0080)["C:/Program Files(x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/SX_HelloWorld.so"]

                            No, it's "C:/Program Files/Google/Google Sketchup 8/Plugins/SX_HelloWorld.so" (no "(x86)")

                            So (just to be clear:

                            1) You installed the 32bit version of Windows 7 ??

                            2) Are you running Sketchup with the Google supplied "msvcrt-ruby18.DLL" (which is v1.8.6-p287,) or did you replace the "msvcrt-ruby18.DLL" library file in the Sketchup program dir, with the one that you built ??

                            I'm not here much anymore.

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                              Dan Rathbun
                              last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 21:14

                              .. and did you try: require('SX_HelloWorld.so')
                              (ie, specifying the extension, which should skip the search for a "SX_HelloWorld.rb" file.)

                              I'm not here much anymore.

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                                jefftrull
                                last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 21:23

                                thomthom, thanks for your help. I've suddenly found a formula that works. The key thing is to use the Ruby built from the one-click installer you reference in the README http://rubyforge.org/frs/download.php/47082/ruby186-27_rc2.exe
                                I hope it doesn't go away anytime soon (it's no longer listed on their index page) - I'm glad you had the direct link, because using either of the two Ruby builds I made from source (one VS2008, one VS2010) fails.

                                To answer your questions:

                                1. yes, it works in irb for all three Ruby builds without problems
                                2. I did the config.h hack for the one-click version, but for the VS2008 and VS2010 I was able to compile the extension with the same version of VC++ I used to build Ruby itself, so it wasn't necessary... I think?
                                3. All Ruby versions were 1.8.6-p287, chosen to match SketchUp
                                4. The apocryph report relates to the need to embed a manifest into the .so file. Following that advice allowed me to compile under VS2008 - under VS2010 no manifest was produced (and its integration was apparently unnecessary)
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                                  jefftrull
                                  last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 21:27

                                  Thanks again for considering this problem of mine, Dan. As you can see from my previous message, it's now working, but I'm still not sure what was wrong.

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  So (just to be clear:

                                  1) You installed the 32bit version of Windows 7 ??

                                  Looks like it. "system properties" says "32-bit operating system"

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  2) Are you running Sketchup with the Google supplied "msvcrt-ruby18.DLL" (which is v1.8.6-p287,) or did you replace the "msvcrt-ruby18.DLL" library file in the Sketchup program dir, with the one that you built ??

                                  That's an interesting question. I haven't changed anything in the Sketchup program dir, beyond copying the SX_HelloWorld.so into Plugins. What is the significance of those msvcrt* files?

                                  Thanks,
                                  Jeff

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                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 21:55

                                    Ah, so you initially used a Ruby version you built yourself?
                                    I don't really know what makes the difference there. I just tried to find a minimum work solution - so I started out with a pre-built Ruby.

                                    @jefftrull said:

                                    1. I did the config.h hack for the one-click version, but for the VS2008 and VS2010 I was able to compile the extension with the same version of VC++ I used to build Ruby itself, so it wasn't necessary... I think?

                                    Dunno - you might not need it if you built Ruby yourself. The version you had might not have that check in it. With the pre-built version I used I had to remove that check otherwise it would not compile.

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      Dan Rathbun
                                      last edited by 5 Jan 2012, 23:24

                                      @jefftrull said:

                                      That's an interesting question. I haven't changed anything in the Sketchup program dir, beyond copying the SX_HelloWorld.so into Plugins. What is the significance of those msvcrt* files?

                                      It's THE Ruby interpreter that the Sketchup executable loads. (Copied from the pre-built v1.8.6-p287 binary package.)

                                      The one that your full Ruby install (ruby.exe and rubyw.exe,) loads is in the "bin" subdir of the full install folder heirarchy.
                                      see: Ruby Interpreter DLLs (Win32)

                                      and making sure you saw this link list: [Info] C/C++ Ruby extensions & SketchUp plugins

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                                        jefftrull
                                        last edited by 6 Jan 2012, 01:04

                                        Thanks again for the helpful information, Dan. I gathered from the "Ruby Interpreter DLLs" link that you can replace the interpreter used by Sketchup with a different one; indeed that seemed to work, but it made no difference in my ability to load the .so file. Still works OK in irb (when the compiler versions match), fails in Sketchup. The good news is it doesn't really matter - I have a working recipe now. The one-click binary is the only thing that's worked for me over all the combinations, and with that, either VS2008 or VS2010 works fine.

                                        I'm off to turn this into a CMake recipe (this application is cross-platform); would anyone be interested in seeing that when it's done?

                                        Cheers,
                                        Jeff

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                                          Dan Rathbun
                                          last edited by 6 Jan 2012, 06:26

                                          Be aware that Mac Sketchup still distro's with Ruby v1.8.5 initial release.

                                          I'm not here much anymore.

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