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    • M Offline
      mwm5053
      last edited by

      Well what I'm doing is a model in SU but all I have are jpegs to go by. I thought of photo match but they're not very good for that the pics I mean. I used the ruler in google earth to get an idea of overall floor plan but not sure of elevations such as slab to ceiling height I can probably estimate window and door dimensions maybe roof pitch but it's a very (to me) complex model or will be. I can upload pics but would rather keep it under my hat for right now. What started this was getting Broadley's book in the book store and and wanting to try his approach to modeling. Anythaughts on how others model from photos would help.

      2011 iMac
      SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
      V2 Twilight
      macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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        ken
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        The below program is not free, around $39. I use this program because I get photos from afar that I need to turn into a model. This helps if you can get one or two items that you know the dimension.

        Photogrammetric image rectification 1.0

        Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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          driven
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          If you use images from street view, you only need to use 'Tape Measure' on a known dimension[like a postbox] to scale the whole model then fine adjust with 'FredoScale' or ScaleTool, 'MoveTool'
          john

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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            mwm5053
            last edited by

            @driven said:

            If you use images from street view, you only need to use 'Tape Measure' on a known dimension[like a postbox] to scale the whole model then fine adjust with 'FredoScale' or ScaleTool, 'MoveTool'
            john

            When I went to street view it was under construction and only the steel was up when they (Google camera) went by bummer huh

            2011 iMac
            SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
            V2 Twilight
            macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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              mwm5053
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              The below program is not free, around $39. I use this program because I get photos from afar that I need to turn into a model. This helps if you can get one or two items that you know the dimension.

              Photogrammetric image rectification 1.0

              Looking at this looks good doesn't say if the they have a ver. for Mac maybe you know

              2011 iMac
              SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
              V2 Twilight
              macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by

                TGI3d Photoscan is suited to this type of work. I think it has a 30 day trial.

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                  ken
                  last edited by

                  @mwm5053 said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  The below program is not free, around $39. I use this program because I get photos from afar that I need to turn into a model. This helps if you can get one or two items that you know the dimension.

                  Photogrammetric image rectification 1.0

                  Looking at this looks good doesn't say if the they have a ver. for Mac maybe you know

                  Nope no Mac ver. Just Windows.

                  Ken

                  Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                    driven
                    last edited by

                    Just found this and thought it might be useful.
                    http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/surveying/en.shtml

                    john

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      dsarchs
                      last edited by

                      Option 1:

                      1. import image into autocad -- scale approximately
                      2. find a known dimension in the image and draw a line (e.g. a 200' long building)
                        a. on the image (on the 200' portion of building
                        b. a nearby line in model space the actual dimension (a 200' line approximately parallel to line in image)
                      3. select image, use align command, connecting line on image to scaled line
                        a. use only 2 points -- select to scale the image
                        Done!

                      Alternatively, my office uses BlueBeam (PDF editor alternative to acrobat), which has a calibration option where you select 2 points in an image and type in the distance between those. Then, all the measurement/editing commands will be scaled correctly.

                      Knowledge is a polite word for dead but not buried imagination.

                      -e.e.cummings

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        @dsarchs said:

                        Option 1:

                        1. import image into autocad -- scale approximately
                        2. find a known dimension in the image and draw a line (e.g. a 200' long building)
                          a. on the image (on the 200' portion of building
                          b. a nearby line in model space the actual dimension (a 200' line approximately parallel to line in image)
                        3. select image, use align command, connecting line on image to scaled line
                          a. use only 2 points -- select to scale the image
                          Done!

                        you can do that in sketchup (and more easily imo)

                        -import image
                        -select the tape measure tool

                        • click on first point of known length
                        • click on second point of known length
                        • type the actual dimension of known length
                        • <return>
                        • click 'yes' when asked if you want to resize the model..

                        (of course, this only works if the picture is a top/front/side etc view of the building.. if it's a perspective photo, you'll have to transform it first)

                        if the OP would kindly upload a picture he's working from (or if he'd rather not upload the exact pictures, at least a generic picture showing a similar viewpoint) then it'd be easier to advise on what needs to be done.

                        [edit] oh.. there's also that one plugin which will do this stuff.. you know, that one? i hope so because i forgot the name 😄.. i'll try to find it though..

                        [edit2]
                        the plugin is called PhotoMatch:
                        http://www.brainstormllc.com/

                        (but i'm assuming this is the same thing mentioned in post#4 of this thread)

                        dotdotdot

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                          mwm5053
                          last edited by

                          @ Jeff I think your right about all that and I did a little experimenting and going to stay on this coarse till I get it or just try to wing it.
                          It's the old I saw this photograph and I want to model that maybe over my head but I like a challenge I've done three or more homes and learning KT and at present Gimp. Ithink in Gimp you can change perspective not sure I'm using Google earth to get the basic idea of the layout of the place.

                          So this WIP is about Ocean House Watch Hill RI. Recently renovated.

                          @ Rich I downloaded TGI3d Photoscan for Mac and In an attept to unpack the file it said I didn't have SU 7 or 8 on my computer, funny will contact support


                          1.jpg

                          2011 iMac
                          SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
                          V2 Twilight
                          macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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                            mwm5053
                            last edited by

                            Now that I look at that photo it's a rendered photo. Here's one of the first jpegs I saw.


                            01ocean-house.jpg

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                              gulcanocali
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                              Hi Walt,

                              @mwm5053 said:

                              I downloaded TGI3d Photoscan for Mac and In an attept to unpack the file it said I didn't have SU 7 or 8 on my computer, funny will contact support

                              We will be addressing this issue in the upcoming releases. In the mean time you can create symbolic links from bash prompt for "/Library/Application Support/Google Sketchup 8" directory as in the example below:

                              sudo ln -s /Volumes/ExternalVolume/Library/Application\ Support/Google\ Sketchup\ 8 /Library/Application\ Support/Google\ Sketchup\ 8

                              Please do not hesitate to contact us from the Support page on our website as well. You'll find that we are in general very quick to respond to support inquiries from our website.

                              Regards,

                              Gulcan Ocali
                              Product Manager
                              http://www.Tgi3D.com

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