[Plugin] QuadFaceTools

McGyver · 15 Nov 2011, 19:11

I updated the the plugin. For Me there seems to be no change. I copied the Ruby Console message again:

Error: #<TypeError: nil can't be coerced into Float>
/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_QuadFaceTools/uv_mapping.rb:857:in /' /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_QuadFaceTools/uv_mapping.rb:857:in point_on_axis'
/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_QuadFaceTools/uv_mapping.rb:387:in activate' /Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_QuadFaceTools/uv_mapping.rb:1129:in push_tool'
/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_QuadFaceTools/uv_mapping.rb:1129:in `onLButtonDown'

After the above attempt I closed the model and tried again... I noticed that if I clicked on the red or green lines, the scaling handles would appear... they don't do anything... but moving them a tiny bit them generates a very large amount of error messages in the ruby console. I don't know if it is of any use but I copied it to a TextEdit file and I am including it with this post. I did not think it would make sense to fill up a huge amount of space in this thread.

Error message

thomthom · 15 Nov 2011, 19:55

@unknownuser said:

I updated the the plugin. For Me there seems to be no change.

Trust me, there's lots of changes under the hood. And now the error messages will refer to the correct code which I sit with.

Still not sure why you're getting these errors... it seem similar to some error in 0.3 or 0.4, but I thought I had trapped that and I'd not gotten any report since then...

Can you try one thing: when activating the UV tool and after picking the U and V axis, right click and choose Use Material Size ?

thomthom · 16 Nov 2011, 08:35

That message indicates that the mesh got poles in it - that the mesh cannot be mapped to a 2d grid. What the UV mapping tool does is map all the quads to a 2d grid co-ordinate in order to texture seamlessly. That means that any poles in the mesh will prevent that.

jo-ke · 16 Nov 2011, 08:35

I am using this nice plugin for texturing curtains. It works well in most cases but in this case I have big problems with the mesh. I doesn't map properly. Could you tell me what I have done wrong? I've attached the file below.

the texture should look like this:

1-raffschal.rar

jo-ke · 16 Nov 2011, 08:38

Is there any chance to convert it?

or should I wait for your bezier plugin to create my own curtain?

thomthom · 16 Nov 2011, 09:01

@jo-ke said:

Is there any chance to convert it?

No - poles are a topological feature: http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?93651-Poles-and-Loops&p=849794&viewfull=1#post849794

I'll add to the Select Tool an option to highlight poles so one can easily find them.

jo-ke · 16 Nov 2011, 10:48

Ahhh. I see what the problem is. Thank you for you help.

thomthom · 16 Nov 2011, 11:45

I started on adding the poles UI for the Select Tool - here's your model:

Green: 5 Poles ( E poles )
Blue: 3 Poles ( N Poles )
Red: More than 5 poles

As you see - the folded up area got quite a few E poles.

How did you make the mesh?

jo-ke · 16 Nov 2011, 13:34

Oh thank you.

The mesh was imported as a 3ds model

As I remember, it should have been this one:

http://www.archibase.net/download/c45794ef.html

thomthom · 16 Nov 2011, 13:46

@jo-ke said:

The mesh was imported as a 3ds model

Did you then use the Convert Triangulated Mesh to Quads function in QuadFace? It's still a bit unreliable - produce some undesired results in some cases.

McGyver · 16 Nov 2011, 15:21

I just wanted to say that when I said "I updated the the plugin. For Me there seems to be no change." I meant I still had the same results and there was nothing visually different happening on the screen... not that I thought nothing was changed in the plugin, I'm sorry if that sounded bad, that is not what I meant. I am highly appreciative of all the hard work you put into this plugin and the fact that you are kind enough to share it with so many people. The work you and all the other Ruby creators do is truly amazing.

As you suggested I right clicked "Use material size" and..... IT WORKS! It scales properly and I can Flip U and V scale, it shows the U V grid... everything appears to function properly!

I hope I did not miss something and I was not just bothering you with some sort of wild goose chase, having you try and figure out what was wrong when there was nothing wrong at all... If I missed something I'm sorry... I watched the video several times and read through the thread twice before I made that first post... anyway thanks again for this plugin and all the help!

thomthom · 16 Nov 2011, 15:27

@unknownuser said:

As you suggested I right clicked "Use material size" and..... IT WORKS! It scales properly and I can Flip U and V scale, it shows the U V grid... everything appears to function properly!

It might be that the old version triggered a bug and caused it to store some invalid values. If you run into this again let me know as I need to dig more into this.

Thanks for posting back with such detailed information - it really helps.

It is on my to-do list to make a better manual for this tool. I just have a hard time finding spare time to do so at the moment.

jo-ke · 19 Nov 2011, 12:25

@thomthom said:

@jo-ke said:

The mesh was imported as a 3ds model

Did you then use the Convert Triangulated Mesh to Quads function in QuadFace? It's still a bit unreliable - produce some undesired results in some cases.

Yes I did. It worked well so far but the texturing wasn't as I expected it.

Alan Fraser · 21 Nov 2011, 08:50

Great set of tools TT...but I appear to be the only one having this problem (unless I've completely missed something). I cannot get the VCB to talk to the HUD in any way whatsoever. When I attempt to edit Connect Edges, the HUD remains firmly on 1 and 0 whatever I type into Measurements. I have the latest version of TTLib installed.

thomthom · 21 Nov 2011, 09:08

@alan fraser said:

Great set of tools TT...but I appear to be the only one having this problem (unless I've completely missed something). I cannot get the VCB to talk to the HUD in any way whatsoever. When I attempt to edit Connect Edges, the HUD remains firmly on 1 and 0 whatever I type into Measurements. I have the latest version of TTLib installed.

The HUD doesn't update until you hit Return/Enter. The HUD is merely there so you can pick what kind of input the VCB control.

Alan Fraser · 21 Nov 2011, 10:43

Ah! Thanks for that; I assumed that Enter would activate the settings on the HUD...same as clicking the tick. Another Duhh! moment.

thomthom · 21 Nov 2011, 12:01

It's not ideal in the way it works. I'm looking to improve it.

jo-ke · 4 Jan 2012, 15:28

I'm using this great plugin frequnetly. But in this case I have a problem:

I've tried to convert the mesh to quads. but the result ist still strange.

I wasn't able to texture this easy mesh properly.

griff.skp

thomthom · 4 Jan 2012, 17:45

@jo-ke said:

I've tried to convert the mesh to quads. but the result ist still strange.

Yes, Convert to Quads does have it's issues and flaws atm. In which case you need to correct it.

Another matter was that it seemed to have been made with an older version - I had to use the "Sandbox Quads to QuadFace Quads" to upgrade the mesh to work with QT 0.6. But as the mesh was irregular I was not able to map it eiter - as mentioned earlier, it needs to be cleaned up.

How did you create the geometry btw? Was it triangulated originally?

jo-ke · 4 Jan 2012, 23:26

originally it was a max file, then converted into su8, then saved as su7

the texture should look like this...

tricky thing, these many kinds of meshes....