From SketchUp to Reality

JuanV.Soler · 14 Sept 2011, 18:09

very tidy and clean all the process
huge job

dale · 15 Sept 2011, 03:43

Juan
Thank you a very appreciated comment from you.

Dale

Mike Lucey · 15 Sept 2011, 11:05

Great stuff Dale.

Some complex trusses there especially the sloping one over the ??? room. I imagine the void will be useful for services.

Is there any chance we could have a look at the plan layout so we can get a good overview?

Mike

dale · 16 Sept 2011, 02:58

Hi Mike
Here are the floor plans for the main and the lower floor and a section.
Really crazy here right now so I will post some more shortly.
Cheers
Dale

dale · 16 Sept 2011, 03:34

This is a hijack your own post notification:
As an aside to my own house project, another project on the books just had a grand opening.
This to was a from SketchUp to reality project, so I decided to include it as an aside.the SketchUp model:
The rendering:
Reality:
Opening ceremonies ribbon in place:
Interior Clerestory

Mike Lucey · 16 Sept 2011, 10:45

Thanks for posting your house plans Dale. The layout works well. The house looks to be designed for two to three residents? BTW, I will be using your semi-circle direction line (on half landing) in my stairs plan in future

dale · 16 Sept 2011, 13:59

Yes Mike it is built for Judy and I, and the studios double as guest rooms. The design is very personal combining things we have liked about our previous residences.
I think it is harder in a way to design your own project.
We have also made it so that we can live entirely on the main floor should the time come that we have problems with stairs by doing things like roughing in plumbing in the little pantry area.

dale · 18 Sept 2011, 14:09

The ground source Geo-exchange system was a big project.
We put in 1800 lineal feet (548 m) which required us to dig trenches about 6'(1.8 m) deep x 10'(3 m)

The headers were fused chemically fused to the pipes for the two trenches. When we buried them they were separated by about 2'.

Mike Lucey · 18 Sept 2011, 14:16

Hey Dale, Do you guys sweep the ground before taking the pictures? Everything is so neat and tidy

I'm very interested in learning how the geothermal system works out. I have never (yet) been involved in an install.

I have a similar layout in my humble abode. We (Pauline and I) could live on one floor if the need arose. However I would have to do a major tidy up of all my bits and pieces

Mike

dale · 19 Sept 2011, 13:49

Hi Mike
This is the first Geo-exchange system that I have owned, so I am very interested in how it performs.
At work we have had several projects with water based Geo-exchange systems and all of the owners are quite happy with them.
This system is based on a three ton unit, with 4 ton of capacity of buried pipe.
I have had quite a few discussions with their engineer, and he said the main thing in the hydronic system is to go with shorter loops, and return the water at a slightly higher temperature, which in turn raises the efficiency of the system.
In the above picture we are carrying in the supplementary storage tank which has a 4.5 Kw capacity to assist the system if it is taxed.
We can get down to -40 here, but it usually doesn't last for long, and this house is built around mass, but we are designed to supply both heat and hot water.
As for the cleanliness, it sure doesn't seem like that to us.
It feels like chaos.

billbell52 · 23 Sept 2011, 12:58

I just across this post. I have been looking at house planning for a while. I thought I did a good job on the house I am currently in. However, I found out I was terribly wrong. About 8 years I awoke to a slight twitch in my right cheek. I eventually found out I have a rare neurological disease. I am now confined to a powerchair. Looking at my house today it would have been easy to make it handicap friendly. I could have added a role in shower for almost no cost difference. I could have put 6' x 6' closets on the first and second floor that line up. This way installing an elevator would be simple. I could have made all internal doors 36". There are lots of other items I could have done to make my life easier. It is not something you want to plan for but it is something to consider.

notareal · 23 Sept 2011, 19:49

@billbell52 said:

Looking at my house today it would have been easy to make it handicap friendly. I could have added a role in shower for almost no cost difference. I could have put 6' x 6' closets on the first and second floor that line up. This way installing an elevator would be simple. I could have made all internal doors 36". There are lots of other items I could have done to make my life easier. It is not something you want to plan for but it is something to consider.

This is pretty much what we did for our house. But honestly I probably would not consider those things unless I have a friend who uses a wheelchair.

dale · 24 Sept 2011, 02:34

@billbell52 said:

I just across this post. I have been looking at house planning for a while. I thought I did a good job on the house I am currently in. However, I found out I was terribly wrong. About 8 years I awoke to a slight twitch in my right cheek. I eventually found out I have a rare neurological disease. I am now confined to a powerchair. Looking at my house today it would have been easy to make it handicap friendly. I could have added a role in shower for almost no cost difference. I could have put 6' x 6' closets on the first and second floor that line up. This way installing an elevator would be simple. I could have made all internal doors 36". There are lots of other items I could have done to make my life easier. It is not something you want to plan for but it is something to consider.

Bill
Thanks I appreciate the input.
What we have tried to do is have the main floor right on grade, and make it so that all amenities can be placed on that floor, so that we will not need the lower floor for basic living.
Of course the service room would need to be attended and that is on the lower floor, so that we would have to hire someone to do.
I have had quite a time convincing the building inspector that I am building a roll in shower as code here requires a 3" curb..
This currently on the plans shows a door, but there will not be one. Just a glass panel that a wheelchair could roll around. The whole bathroom has a protective membrane tied to the drain, and since the floor will be concrete or stone throughout the house, we have paid special attention to this detail.
It is difficult for someone like myself who is currently mobile to anticipate everything that would be an obstruction should we become challenged, so any input you have will be thoughtfully considered.
Cheers

Dale

Krisidious · 24 Sept 2011, 05:42

watching...

billbell52 · 24 Sept 2011, 13:12

Sounds like you are thinking ahead on this. I am not an expert on this. I don't think you need to go crazy on it. However, there are lots of things that can be done that add almost no cost and don't look unsightly. The main ones I did wrong are:

Make closet doors 30" or 36". I have 24" doors that could easily be larger at no real cost difference.
Make hallways wider to make turning around easier. I can turn around today but just barely.
Make switches/controls accessible. I have some pool controls that are hard to reach. I moved water heater from tank in attic to tankless in garage.
Biggest mistake was toilet access. I could easily have added more room and changed layout.

Other possible items

Plan for grab bar attachment.
Role under bathroom sink

Things I accidentally did right.

Easy ramp access to front and rear door.
Bedroom is large enough to easily navigate.
Pavestone walkways around house are flat and wide enough.

I was able to put in a vertical platform lift to get between floors. It is a tight fit but it does work.

I use to think I would move to a new house when my needs changed. In this market selling a house is difficult. So I am leaning more towards planning ahead. My mother broke her hip a few years ago and came to live with us a few months while she recuperated. My mother-in-law has problems with stairs and she visits from time to time.

Wishing you the best on your project.

Mike Lucey · 25 Sept 2011, 11:37

Coming along nicely Dale

As regards disabled access goes over here, we have to provide quite a number of considerations as standard. While these items may not make a lot of sense to able body house holders, I remind them that they may appreciate the extra access provisions in time AND that some day they may grow old and be glad of them

Dave R · 25 Sept 2011, 12:43

Some of those ideas just make sense even for the able bodied. Wider doors and straight runs into rooms make sense for moving furniture around. I've been in some newer homes that look great but you can't move a couch or a bed in without damaging the walls. What kind of sense does that make? The house we had designed a few years ago (but have yet to build) was, at our request, designed with 36" wide doors and other features that would make the house accessible to wheelchair users but it was more to make the house easier to live in for anyone.

Mike Lucey · 10 Oct 2011, 11:59

Just wondering how progress in going?

dale · 11 Oct 2011, 03:40

Mike, I apologize for the delay in updates, but it has been dawn to dusk, then fall into bed hectic around here for the past month.
Just a couple more days of madness, and I will do a big update.
Winter strikes hard and fast here, and I am really pushing to not get caught.
Thanks so much for your interest.

pbacot · 11 Oct 2011, 16:35

@dale said:

Mike, I apologize for the delay in updates, but it has been dawn to dusk, then fall into bed hectic around here for the past month.
Just a couple more days of madness, and I will do a big update.
Winter strikes hard and fast here, and I am really pushing to not get caught.
Thanks so much for your interest.

Well that's plenty of an update. How blessed to be thus engaged. Looking forward to hearing the details.