HMS Victory 1765
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Amazing, John. Simply amazing.
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Dave I've just double checked and the waterline is 4.3m below the lowest gun port, not a lot but when you look at the model, the middle mast is 24m above the deck. She's some size!
TIG the conditions aboard must have been horrific, no wonder a lot walked the plank!
John, thank you.
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Great Work Tadema, just a few things Ive noticed.
The headrails,The victory has 3 including the main top one,you have 4 and they are quite unaccurate, I know how hard they are to get correct but it is one of the most distinctive areas on these ships and is well worth the time spent in getting it 100%.
The Masts all seem a little short and thin, the main mast main yard on the real victory extends over the side almost 50% of the ships width on ither side.
Some of the most important Lower Standing Rig lines are missing, Will you still be adding them later?
Overall it looks great,Id love to see the figurehead and the sterncastle
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Hello Marius, you could be correct all I now about ships/boats is the pointy bit goes to the front!The plans I have are 1.78 scale and I've checked the dimensions and they are correct (going on the drawings), please take a look at the front view attatched. Sorry but could you explain the handrails. I planned on doing all the sails/rigging but was unsure if SU could handle the file size, but I'll add them. This was only a fun project and I'm sure I've made a good few mistakes, it's been fun and the (if) next one will be an improvement.
John
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Hello again Marius, sorry I stated handrails instead of headrails, I've had a quick look on the net and they seem to be something around the front see attatched jpeg.
John
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I was just thinking the other day that I hadn't seen any images from you for a while! Then I inadvertantly wandered into WIP and WHAM! Was great to see this project develop. Great work! I bet your computer is petrified at what your next project will be!
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while the waterline might be 4.3M below the lowest gun ports, the ship would be fought under sail and in most cases the heel would reduce that distance greatly.
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Extremely well done, John. Having struggled with just a low poly version of the Endeavour some years back, I can well appreciate the effort that went into that. A fully detailed HMS Victory is in a completely different league.
As you can see, I cut every corner I could...the shrouds were just transparent png files, so look like triangular slats when textures are turned off.
I guess you found, as I did. that with this kind of model, SU's inferencing and axes are of no use whatsoever. In fact in many ways they are counter productive.
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Thank you Alan, she may have been a bit ambitious for a first try. I was surprised the amount SU could handle even without layers. It's the first time I've experienced flying to the moon and back constantly whilst drawing!
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@tadema said:
Thank you Alan, she may have been a bit ambitious for a first try. I was surprised the amount SU could handle even without layers. It's the first time I've experienced flying to the moon and back constantly whilst drawing!
Johnyes layers are the life saver for large models for sure, I find it easy to run into 50+ now with larger models. If I have a door on my helicopter for example It can have many layers each, open, closed, removed etc, times that by four and you already have 12 layers just for the doors etc etc
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Liam thanks for the advice it's certainly taken on board (sorry for the pun), what put me off using layers was, if your not drawing on layer 0 it screwed your other layers up!. I know i'd set off on a tangent drawing on the wrong layer.
Small update with headrails adjusted.
John
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@tadema said:
Liam thanks for the advice it's certainly taken on board (sorry for the pun), what put me off using layers was, if your not drawing on layer 0 it screwed your other layers up!. I know i'd set off on a tangent drawing on the wrong layer.
Small update with headrails adjusted.
JohnJohn, always leave Layer 0 active. Then you'll never be drawing on the wrong layer. Only components or groups get different layer assignments. Edges and faces always remain on Layer 0. No problems that way.
Looks like she's going to ground out in a moment.
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@dave r said:
Looks like she's going to ground out in a moment.
Nah! She's getting ready to invade the Spanish in California....somewhere off the Monterey coast, by the looks of things.
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She needs to get her boats down and send in a crew to burn Principe de Asturias to the waterline.
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