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    thomthom
    last edited by 27 Dec 2010, 18:37

    Does that matter?
    Floating toolbars are also child of the SU window...

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      thomthom
      last edited by 27 Dec 2010, 19:01

      Sidenote: Win32 - Get SketchUp Window Handle

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        Dan Rathbun
        last edited by 27 Dec 2010, 21:35

        @thomthom said:

        Does that matter?

        Well.. you you didnt understand why...
        I propose the flag acts differently for child windows versus toplevel windows.

        .. it's the only difference I can see at first glance.

        I'm not here much anymore.

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          thomthom
          last edited by 28 Dec 2010, 00:12

          Yea, I was looking at that myself, but when comparing to the floating toolbars I could not see any significant difference. But I'm not that familiar with Win32 API.

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            driven
            last edited by 28 Dec 2010, 16:17

            @thomthom said:

            One can use WS_EX_NOACTIVATE to prevent a window from catching focus - but from what I understand it'll still allow interaction events. I'll try it out as soon as I get home.

            hi Thomas,

            been trying to make a 'nice' Mac toolbar in a WebDialog, and discovered that if you hold down the cmd key (i.e. before clicking the tool icon) you don't move focus and the tool (and cursor image) is there immediately on mouse-out.
            This is one click LESS than on a standard mac SU toolbar icons as I don't have to click back into the model space to activate the cursor.... (command clicking SU toolbar icons does the same thing, as well)
            so, question is, do you have a snippet that will send a cmd_key_down on mouse-over of the WD?

            john

            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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              thomthom
              last edited by 28 Dec 2010, 16:47

              @driven said:

              been trying to make a 'nice' Mac toolbar in a WebDialog, and discovered that if you hold down the cmd key (i.e. before clicking the tool icon) you don't move focus and the tool (and cursor image) is there immediately on mouse-out.
              This is one click LESS than on a standard mac SU toolbar icons as I don't have to click back into the model space to activate the cursor....

              Are you saying that clicking a native toolbar button in SU steals focus from the main window? (I need to unpack my Mac from my moving-boxes to have a look at this.)

              @driven said:

              so, question is, do you have a snippet that will send a cmd_key_down on mouse-over of the WD?

              I've never developed for OSX - so this is unknown territory for me. But will you even be able to receive mouse events if the window haven't got focus?

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                driven
                last edited by 28 Dec 2010, 17:43

                @thomthom said:

                @driven said:

                Are you saying that clicking a native toolbar button in SU steals focus from the main window? (I need to unpack my Mac from my moving-boxes to have a look at this.)

                NO, sorry, I just rechecked, I've got 'standard' icons in WebDialogs that I'm doing tests with, they behave the same as 'ruby' icons in the same WD...

                standard toolbars DO NOT highlight the box or such, and DO an instant tool-change,

                unlike

                the standard WD which requires
                1st click on dialog to highlight/focus box
                2nd click on icon to select manipulation tools or send action direct (undo, redo, etc...)
                3rd click on drawing space to reveal cursor (and select first point) if manipulation tool

                unless
                you hold down the cmd key before clicking....

                the WebDialog then behalves the same as 'standard' toolbar, and you can also change tabs, access drop-down menus, select tools etc... all without drawing focus away from drawing window... but you have to hold the cmd key the whole time...

                if the web dialog sent a function call to hold the cmd key down on mouse-over, then you'd have a useful tool window...

                hope that clarifies what I'm asking/saying/thinking.....

                clear as mud

                john

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                  thomthom
                  last edited by 28 Dec 2010, 18:32

                  Understood.

                  This OSX behaviour of dealing with windows is causing my little greys to twitch in pain - my BezierSurface plugin was suppose to use WebDialog toolbars and windows extensively. Now I need to find a way to handle this or scrap the UI (which I've written a great part of the framework of already and find a new solution.)

                  I've been searching for ways to manipulate windows under OSX like one can do under Windows with the Win32 API - but I never find anything. 😞

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                    driven
                    last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 16:14

                    @thomthom said:

                    I've been searching for ways to manipulate windows under OSX like one can do under Windows with the Win32 API - but I never find anything. 😞

                    Thom,

                    I just did a scan of the different windows used in SU, what features do you want enabled/disabled in your WebDialogs?

                    I'm having a look at UI.Browser.app to see if I can use that to tweak SU windows...

                    john
                    UI reports

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 16:25

                      @driven said:

                      I just did a scan of the different windows used in SU, what features do you want enabled/disabled in your WebDialogs?

                      What I would like to be able to do is:

                      1. Change the window frame style to toolwindow
                      2. Allow the user to only click once to activate the UI elements in the webdialog (as oppose to click to give focus, click again to activate UI element)
                      3. Be able to activate by click the UI elements in the webdialog without taking focus from the SU window.

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 16:26

                        @driven said:

                        [attachment=0:4644llpu]<!-- ia0 -->reports_Mac_SU_UI-Elements.zip<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:4644llpu]

                        I get errors when I try to unzip that file. Both Windows and WinRar reports errors.

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                          driven
                          last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 17:00

                          @thomthom said:

                          1 Change the window frame style to toolwindow]

                          you can see in the reports that there's more than one version of 'toolwindow'

                          @thomthom said:

                          2 Allow the user to only click once to activate the UI elements in the webdialog (as oppose to click to give focus, click again to activate UI element)

                          some of the native toolwindows require this, sometimes??? model info for example

                          @thomthom said:

                          3 Be able to activate by click the UI elements in the webdialog without taking focus from the SU window.

                          Can be achieved on all by holding down cmd key, so I'm looking for adding an applescript to do that on hover/mouseover

                          try this zip...stuffit or I'll pm a link

                          john

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 18:30

                            I still get errors.
                            ExtractErrors.png

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 18:32

                              I think the files extracted after all, despite the errors.

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                                driven
                                last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 18:37

                                @thomthom said:

                                I think the files extracted after all, despite the errors.

                                so you have them? do they make sense...

                                I did some more and now I'm trying to work out if I can make changes...

                                I've got apple script launching things from inside SU so now I need to see if it can modify window element attributes or something...

                                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 18:40

                                  I'm not entirely sure I know what I'm looking at. Where does this data come from?

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                                    driven
                                    last edited by 29 Dec 2010, 18:50

                                    403 Forbidden

                                    favicon

                                    (pfiddlesoft.com)

                                    it scans all UI elements in a targeted app, in this case SU, writes reports and allows some level of modification, unfortunately my trials has runout,
                                    so I haven't been able fully explore it,

                                    however the information can be used to find the real differences...

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                                      Dan Rathbun
                                      last edited by 31 Dec 2010, 05:49

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      I've been searching for ways to manipulate windows under OSX like one can do under Windows with the Win32 API - but I never find anything.

                                      Just wondering...
                                      ref: [window.opener()](http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms534309(v)

                                      When a WebDialog has the focus... does this JS in the dialog:
                                      %(#8000BF)[window.opener.focus()]
                                      cause the Sketchup window to receive the focus ...

                                      (1) on PC/IE ??

                                      (2) on Mac/Safari ??

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                                        Jim
                                        last edited by 31 Dec 2010, 06:59

                                        .blur() ing a WebDialog seems to focus the main SU window on Mac.

                                        <body onMouseOut ="window.blur()">

                                        On Windows, it sends the main SU window and everything else to the back.

                                        Hi

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                                          Dan Rathbun
                                          last edited by 31 Dec 2010, 08:42

                                          How the Paint.NET programmer enabled Mouse ClickThrough for Paint.NET 's various ToolWindows.

                                          http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rickbrew/archive/2006/01/09/511003.aspx

                                          I'm not here much anymore.

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