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  • K Offline
    Krisidious
    last edited by 7 Dec 2010, 21:39

    for some reason my taper won't complete in fredo scaling tools.

    the proposed geometry shows up, as I scale, but it never gives me the green check-mark for completion... any ideas?

    the other tools all seem to be working properly.

    SU 8 Pro btw

    By: Kristoff Rand
    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      mitcorb
      last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 03:08

      Are you performing the operation on groups, components, or "loose" geometry?
      I think groups or components would be the preferred. However, this is just my experience.
      You wouldn't happen to have a conflicting plugin or script that could be causing this?

      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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        Krisidious
        last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 03:47

        I get no errors so I don't think it's a conflicting plugin. but how else would I know?

        By: Kristoff Rand
        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          mitcorb
          last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 04:00

          I just threw out the "conflicting plugin" idea. I have no way of knowing. It is unfortunate that there is no "interoperability" plugin. Or, an Easy Button 💚
          I am hoping someone can chime in for you.

          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            Krisidious
            last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 04:49

            here is where I get to...
            fredotaper.jpg
            fredotaper2.jpg
            fredotaper3.jpg

            then nothing... it reverts back to the original and the preview vanishes...

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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              fredo6
              last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 05:40

              @krisidious said:

              for some reason my taper won't complete in fredo scaling tools.

              the proposed geometry shows up, as I scale, but it never gives me the green check-mark for completion... any ideas?

              the other tools all seem to be working properly.

              SU 8 Pro btw

              Kristoff,

              This is because if the geometry is not enclosed in a group, you need to select the whole geometry, i.e. the faces not just the edges.

              This happens when you apply a first FredoScale transformation to a geometry. For some reasons linked to how SU manages selection when entities are modified, the selection is modified.

              So just reselect the whole geometry and apply the Taper transformation. It should work.

              Fredo

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                Krisidious
                last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 06:02

                but it is in a group...

                By: Kristoff Rand
                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                  Krisidious
                  last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 06:04

                  ahhh I tried it as a "component" and it works...

                  thank you... I knew I had used before, I guess it had always been on components.

                  By: Kristoff Rand
                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    fredo6
                    last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 11:24

                    @krisidious said:

                    but it is in a group...

                    As you are WITHIN the group (on your picture), the plugin sees it as top-level geometry. This would be the same situation with a Component.

                    What you can do with FredoScale Taper is to act directly on the group, from the outside of the group.

                    Fredo

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 11:30

                      @unknownuser said:

                      This happens when you apply a first FredoScale transformation to a geometry. For some reasons linked to how SU manages selection when entities are modified, the selection is modified.

                      What if you cache the selection collection before you start your transformation?

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                        fredo6
                        last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 11:35

                        @thomthom said:

                        What if you cache the selection collection before you start your transformation?

                        The issue is that, because the geometry is transformed in a constructive way (i.e. new segments can be created by folding or so), the edges and faces may change their object address. Normally, they keep their entityID, but as there is no way to relate directly an entityID to an object (without going thorugh the whole model), I left it like that.

                        Fredo

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                          Krisidious
                          last edited by 8 Dec 2010, 20:24

                          can you work on a group in a group? because I was inside a group working on a group from the outside.

                          By: Kristoff Rand
                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            fredo6
                            last edited by 12 Dec 2010, 23:14

                            @krisidious said:

                            can you work on a group in a group? because I was inside a group working on a group from the outside.

                            It should work.
                            My point on the toplevel geometry (which is a known problem) was becquse in the picture you posted it seems to me that the selection was not enclosed in a group.

                            Fredo

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