Be or not to be (with a mac)?

tfdesign · 13 Oct 2010, 20:54

Do you even know anything about car design, aerodynamics or mechanic to make such a statment?

This is really silly. I have a bachelor of science degree (with honours) in computer-aided engineering & design if that helps. But you are obviously one of those warty creatures that hangs out under bridges, that mother goat warned me about as I was a kid, so I won't feed you any longer.

Good luck, and I wish you every luck with your endeavours.

Tom

dacad · 14 Oct 2010, 00:20

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dacad · 14 Oct 2010, 00:29

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And what in the world is that comparison with the "dream of owning a Porsche 911 after being in possession of a Vauxhall Cavalier"?!? It makes no sense...Does the porsche (mac i suspect...) runs slower, brakes worse, or fails to curve like your Opel (PC)?!? i'm failing to see how paying more for a "competion" machine compares to paying more to a machine with weaker specs...or are you comparing the dream of owning a mac with owning a porsche?lolol Do you even know anything about car design, aerodynamics or mechanic to make such a statment?

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dacad · 14 Oct 2010, 01:05

tfdesign

there wasn't really a need to call me a "troll"... but you are right, maybe i exceed myself, but i still think your comparison is nonsense. I edit out my posts (was all lies anyway right) and just left that part. i'll leave this topic and try to avoid anything similar now.

veneto

Forget what i just said in this topic, was all bogus, lies and errors.
If you are in a budget and work in 3d, sketchup, or whatever, the best thing to do is buy a mac, because in this area it's not about a specific computer components for this tasks it's about the right brand and OS for the job: apple. (in OSX you multiply everything by 4: a dual core 3.0 will run two times faster than quadcore/8threaded 3.0, an entry level ati is beter than high end nvidia, and 4Gg 1066 works as 16Gg 1600, and your imac will last for at least 10 years and allways faster than hardware at the that time). It's really the best buy for your money, no joking.

veneto · 14 Oct 2010, 16:28

Dear forum fellows, I did not want to create problems, but ONLY have tips , experience etc.
Dear dacad i thank you for your thought, but i'm not a dreamer. i thinking to become on mac in 3-4 months , i'm just feeling other experience. Yours are bad but jeff and tfdesign are ok or not?
i'm not a professional designer, i use sketchup for detailing in building ; cad for exchange with other professional ; management program for little construction company.
i need to know if with mac i can do it this things and if i can do better than win system. in more years i had some problems with hardware and software windows and othen i find win frustrating. with mac there are this problems or everything is ok?
tell me friends

p.s.1 for tom and jeff (and all other): you think imac e macmini are stable with sketchup 7 and 8 (independently from graphic card)?
and if i think to a imac which configuration average good?
p.s.2 i'm from italy and i have two little baby , i'm not very young ...

jeff hammond · 15 Oct 2010, 03:14

hey daca.
to answer your question about wether or not sketchup's mac version is better than windows..
i don't think it's better per se but a list of mac only features are: [and it's not as if these features were added to the mac version and not windows.. it's just that these features are built into the os and sketchup can take advantage of them]

--transparent background png/tiff exporting
--exporting 2d images at much larger sizes (up to 15,000px wide with anti-aliasing off.. around 10,000 with it on)
--this windows ruby idea: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=22599&hilit=+launchit is how all mac apps work.. (and way better than that ruby looks)
--print to pdf
--no toolbar hell + a custom toolbar where single icons can be added if desired

__and layout:
--text drop-shadow effects
--ligatures
--baseline
--rulers
--tables
--pdf import
--cymk support

i'm thinking there are a few other things as well that i can't remember right now.

maybe/maybe not important to different people but man, i'm not telling you one is better than the other.. just saying that there are some differences between sumac/windows due to the os. (that's what you were asking, right?)

jeff hammond · 15 Oct 2010, 03:23

@veneto said:

p.s.1 for tom and jeff (and all other): you think imac e macmini are stable with sketchup 7 and 8 (independently from graphic card)?

i would think they are but honestly, i've never owned an imac or a macmini..
it's been G3,4,5, powerbook, mbp, and macpros for me and seriously, i liked every last one of them.. i'm on a computer for up to 60 hrs a week so whatever you decide to buy, make sure you like it (and don't worry if someone else in some other part of the world doesn't like it..).. for me, it's worth a few extra hundred bucks for a computer that i know i'll enjoy working on for the next gazillion hours..

jeff hammond · 15 Oct 2010, 03:37

Oh, and daca

You've tried macs and dont like them. V wants to try one and a positive to take from that is:
Buy the Mac.. If you dont like it, sell it and you'll get enough for it to buy the 1/2price 2X better system you're talking about. So you spend a couple hundred bucks to know that you don't like osx and can quit being curious about it. Not such a bad deal.
Or, you'll like it and keep it. Works out good either way