Interface for plugins.

[DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ]

interesting option to create interfaces for sketchup plugins. soft, fast ...
the new insterface of Maxwell's for sketchup combines html + silverlight.

Es posible usarlo para plugins? para la herramienta ejemplo Fredo?
[flash=853,505:1c0eb0zv]http://www.youtube.com/v/r9n6aHpGohI&fs=1[/flash:1c0eb0zv]

[Chris Fullmer]

Unfortunately, that is their own proprietary UI (or perhaps they have licensed it from another software company). But either way, I'm guessing it is either completely not available to use, or it is being licensed at a price most of us could not afford to include in our plugins.

[DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ]

ooo I see.
a shame that can not be used

[thomthom]

?
What is licensed proprietary? Silverlight? Or the UI framework seen in that video?

[Chris Fullmer]

I was guessing their specific UI was. I don't know much about silverlight - is that what the UI is made with?

[thomthom]

Diego mentioned it was made with HTML + Silverlight.

Though, I don't see anything that can't be made with regular HTML+JS+CSS. Silverlight seems a bit heavy handed for a UI - and you require the suers to install a plugin.

[DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ]

very good:). I doubt java + html + css, was whether they could use all the features of ruby.
for example.
posibility change to HTML + css + java the interface of all fredo curviloft tool?

[JD Hill]

@thomthom said:

I don't see anything that can't be made with regular HTML+JS+CSS.

In my defense, there are some things:

[flash=285,294:12en6b6s]http://downloads.simplesoftwaresystems.com/sketchup/tex.swf[/flash:12en6b6s]
(I couldn't make this auto-play, so right-click)

[thomthom]

@jd hill said:

@thomthom said:

I don't see anything that can't be made with regular HTML+JS+CSS.

In my defense, there are some things:

[flash=285,294:1h7drebw]http://downloads.simplesoftwaresystems.com/sketchup/tex.swf[/flash:1h7drebw]
(I couldn't make this auto-play, so right-click)

Yes? I still don't see anything that can't be done with HTML+CSS+JS...

@diego-rodriguez said:

posibility change to HTML + css + java the interface of all fredo curviloft tool?

Possible, yes - but why? works well the system he has. Putting together a UI frameworks isn't a light task.

[thomthom]

@jd hill said:

@thomthom said:

I don't see anything that can't be made with regular HTML+JS+CSS.

In my defense, there are some things:

Ok - modifying the image is something one can not do in pure HTML+JS+CSS...

[DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ]

if it works well. but for me.
one good thing about sketchup is its graphical interface.
if plugin interfaces are similar, "believe" would be better.
nice and better integrated.

[JD Hill]

@thomthom said:

Ok - modifying the image is something one can not do in pure HTML+JS+CSS...

While it's nice to be able to use HLSL to manipulate images in the browser, there are other reasons as well.

The UI part of the project is about 70K lines at the moment, supports undo/redo for absolutely all actions, and operates in a fully modeless fashion within SketchUp. Imho, it would be much more difficult and error-prone to try to do this in JS than in C#. Also, the UI works exactly the same on SU6/7/8/Win/OSX.

For projects smaller than this, of course I agree that HTML/CSS/JS would often make much more sense.

[tbd]

JD: so the user needs the Silverlight installed on the machine ?

[JD Hill]

Yes, they do.

[thomthom]

Anyone tried the Flash FIR framework?

[JD Hill]

I'm not familiar with that, do you have any links?

[thomthom]

Sorry, my bad - typo - AIR.
http://www.adobe.com/products/air/

[JD Hill]

Ah, I really should have inferred that. It's basically just a runtime for running Flash out-of-browser, isn't it?

[thomthom]

I've not used it - but I was under the impression it also had a framework with pre-made UI widgets... ?

[JD Hill]

Just a guess, as I'm in no way a Flash guy, but I think you may be thinking of Flex, rather than AIR.