SCENES best controlled in SU or Layout?
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Hi. I'm just getting into using Layout3 and am intending to do the first of many (hopefully) entire projects with it; Concept, Planning, Working & Production drawings etc.
I'm just getting to grips with the best way to set up Layout projects, in particular the relationship between the SU model and the Layout doc. (Any direction to a particularly good & succinct tutorial on the best practice regarding that relationship would be welcome.)
I have my SU model where I have currently set up scenes for the Planning stage presentations. I'm then just using those scenes in Layout. However I've got so many scene tabs in my SU model now I have to scroll through them to get to my working scenes which is slow and confusing.
Would it be best to have only working scenes in the SU model and then modify various scenes in the layout documents? Do I have the same amount of control in Layout, i.e section planes on/off, geo shadows etc. Would scenes created in layout then be saved with that layout doc?
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I usually save a 'presentation' version of my model and strip out all scenes, layers, components, etc. that are not needed. I link this to my LayOut drawing, and proceed with detail work.
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Anything you can do in Sketchup is better than working through Layout, in my opinion.
While scrolling thorough a bunch of scenes in Layout may be tedious, it definitely beats the alternative of editing SU models through the Layout window.
For plan views and elevations, and such, I will, in Layout, apply a title block, set SU model scale, add a construction grid, dimension, and add notes. Controlling styles, sections, etc is all done in SU and set as a scene there.
For structural pages, I will bring into Layout a SU scene that has a 2D drawing of the perimeter, interior walls, posts, etc. already drawn. Then, I use Layout to superimpose darker, dashed lines for all of the structural members, using the snapping feature to facilitate the process.
As earlier mentioned, having a stripped down model definitely helps the process, especially if you rendering the working screen of Layout in vector format. Of course, I usually ignore this advice and just throw the whole thing in, as I already have so many versions and iterations that the last thing I need is another one.
There is a bit if a learning curve to figuring out the best way to accomplish things, both in efficiency and editability, but I think it is a worthwhile investment. I think the benefits far outweigh the idiosyncraticies of the software, and it seems that the guys in Boulder are taking an active role in developing it further. To be frank, I think the upgrade to Layout 3, with precise move, is worth the $95 upgrade price for SU8; that one feature was huge in adding to the usefulness of Layout.
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Input appreciated, I will crack on along those lines.
Chuck, do you mean draw the structure lines over the SU scene using LO line tool etc? Would they remain attached to the snap points should you rescale the SU model scene, or wish to copy and reuse the whole structural drawing?
Thanks.
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Yes, I was referring to using the Layout line tool over the model.
I don't know if it remains snapped after rescaling, as I set my scale before drawing. I would be interested if it works.
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@unknownuser said:
Yes, I was referring to using the Layout line tool over the model.
I don't know if it remains snapped after rescaling, as I set my scale before drawing. I would be interested if it works.
I know dimensions will move and update if / when you zoom in and out of a model... not sure on other graphics.
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They (and any line) will only remain attached if they're some sort of arrow head style. I'd suggest using the last two arrows (the undershoot and overshoot) and adjusting the point size of the arrowhead to be very very small (0.00001 pts, for example).
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